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A-Force will continue after Secret Wars but that doesn't mean it'll be the exact same versions of the characters seen.

Except Battleworld will continue to exist after Secret Wars, right? I don't know if it's probable, but it's possible that the Battle Wars version of the A-Force will continue to exist after Secret Wars itselfis over and done with, if Battleworld is still around.

Count the kills.

I'm pretty sure Cap has killed way more named people than that.

Wow, Iron Man has killed a lot of heroes. I know he turned evil for a storyline but still.

I do call shenanigans on X-23 getting the kill for Jeremy Briggs. Unless something has changed, she was unconscious and Finesse used her as a weapon to kill Briggs.

Superhero comics are awesome.

The only one I'd call bullshit on would be Thor killing Jan. He didn't kill her, the Skrulls killed her when they implanted the bomb inside her. All Thor did was teleport her away so that she wouldn't kill everyone else too.

You can argue that it was cruel and a fate ill-befitting a founding Avenger, but it certainly wasn't murder.

And it's all irrelevant given that it was later established the bomb didn't kill her anyway.

edited 23rd May '15 1:52:16 PM by comicwriter

Uh, A-Force is not like Themyscira. At all. For one thing: there are men in Arcadia. We see them.

Second: what storyline could possibly have the Green Lantern Corps enforcing laws in Themyscira? Yes, if you replace all the characters with other DC characters, you get a completely different story. You could do that with anything.

Also, Nico's powers looked like they worked the same, although I didn't see the Staff of One. She still could only use words that she had never used before. Perhaps she found she could use magic without the Staff of One. We don't know what Loki taught her yet.

In other comics: Planet Hulk was awesome (and I loved the backup story by Greg Pak) and Spider-Verse was much better than I expected.

What

Rage of Ultron spoilers

edited 23rd May '15 6:11:34 PM by Bocaj

Okay, I know Vulcan killed more people than that.

He's basically freaking Caligula!

What's there to understand, Hank is sad that his Son is a little shit. A genocidal little shit.

Okay but he's been generally more upset that he's responsible for what Ultron does or that it reflects on him in some way than "OH WOE THAT I COULD NOT SAVE MY ROBOT SON"

Like the only time that has ever come up to my knowledge is when a version of Ultron evolved beyond 'angry baby mad at dad' and decided to bury the hatchet with Hank in a non-murder way.

And then a younger version of Ultron went and murdered the more mature version.

But not before the mature Ultron made Hank incredibly uncomfortable by hugging him.

You know, the next time Hank and Ultron meet, I want Ultron to say, 'Hello, Dad', and then I want Hank to say, "I HAVE NO SON!", just because.

well rage takes place after secret wars so who even knows if things are exactly the same in the new mu with regards to ultron and pym

that's kinda hard because ultron and pym fused into one via vision's phasing.

Great, given what happens in Rage of Ultron, I suppose this makes Ultron his own father now. This has transcended the Summers Family Snarl. It has become...somehow worse.

...Well. Didn't See That Coming.

edited 23rd May '15 6:37:23 PM by kkhohoho

Hanktron: Well, now who the hell am I married to?

wut

No, Seriously, who the hell is Hanktron married to?

Himself?

wut about what? Rage of Ultron being post secret wars or Pym and Ultron being fused and exiling itself into space

Yes, that spoilered thing there.

Basically Vision tried to phase inside Ultron to merge with him and undo a nanite virus he'd created, but somehow Hank got too close and Vision was cast out, so it resulted in Ultron fusing with Hank instead.

Rage of Ultron was designed around completely fucking ignoring Hank Pym's entire history. Hank Pym's traditionally been a proponent of AI rights, and his most recent series, Avengers AI, was all about him being a proponent of AI rights. But Remender instead turned him into "nope A.I.s aren't alive especially when I straight-up murder them LOL!!." Pym's feelings towards Ultron were always guilt at the monstrosity he released, and he was always devoid of any real paternal feelings towards him. But Remender instead made him feel like a horrible father who failed his only son.

Remender said he likes Pym, but I have to wonder how much he really likes Pym when he missed some pretty major elements of Pym's character.

I did not like Rage of Ultron at all.

fucking remender

Wouldn't he die as a result of having machine where flesh should be? I don't think Vision's phasing has ever worked like that. In fact, he's used the fact that it doesn't work like that to cause extreme pain to people before.