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I must be the only person who didn't like Doombot, but then I only read the first few issues. (Intend to grab the trades eventually.)

I liked the nano powers for Vision because the supplement the powers he already had. I'm all for Vision getting a power upgrade, given how badly he got worfed for a long time.

I loved the art. It was weird and fun and matched the tone of the book really well. Special credit has to go to Valerio Schiti's issues. Particularly #6, with it's ridiculously awesome fight between Vision and Dimitrios. Vision laid down the challenge: "Destroy this kitten." And then shit got so damned awesome and most of that came down to Schiti (and colour artist Frank D'Armata) being fucking amazing. It was crazy and innovative and cool and just one of the best fight scenes ever in comics.

So, when are we going to get to the "flipped perspective" thing that Axis was advertised as?

Like, Magneto's got his army of supervillains, but it looks to just be an Enemy Mine brought about by the need to take down the Red Skull. I thought Strange and Wanda's spell was going to do it, but no, they got pushed aside for the sake of more fight scene. We have now had two entire issues dedicated to literally nothing happening but a bunch of superheroes fighting a giant nazi, with the third looking like it's going to be nothing but a bunch of supervillains fighting a giant nazi.

This is even less engaging than Infinity - which was, itself, worse than Age of Ultron. At least both of those actually changed locations at some point. By the end of issue 2, what protagonists remain are literally in the exact same place the characters were in at the start of issue 1, doing the exact same thing. It's been two straight issues of a single fight scene.

edited 18th Oct '14 7:22:56 PM by TobiasDrake

thats act 2 of axis. which is issue 4 i believe. so issue 3 mght end with the inversion.

edited 18th Oct '14 7:24:00 PM by deadpoolrocks

Yeah, I kind of expected some kind of alignment shift right off the bat, but when I glanced through the first two issues and saw that nope, it's just a bunch of people fighting Red Skull, I kept my distance.

If they don't deliver the alignment change within the next issue or so I may stop glancing to see if it actually happens and just skip the event all together without bothering to find out if/when it ever actually happens.

This sounds so ridiculously stupid. How do you even auction off the rights to a C-List supervillain identity? And, for that matter, how do you enforce said rights? These are supervillains we're talking about, they're not exactly known for obeying the law. It's not like they can drag the folks who infringe on those rights into court with a lawsuit.

edited 18th Oct '14 7:28:59 PM by TheSpaceJawa

AXIS is crap, shocker. Glad I didn't bother following it.

"And, for that matter, how do you enforce said rights? These are supervillains we're talking about, they're not exactly known for obeying the law. It's not like they can drag the folks who infringe on those rights into court with a lawsuit. "

hobby kills them if they dont pay up

ive been liking axis act 1 is just a lot of nothing compared to what will come.

edited 18th Oct '14 7:33:17 PM by deadpoolrocks

This. Super-criminals don't have to worry much about being dragged into court for legal infringement, but supervillains like the Hobgoblin have other options, foremost of which is shotgun diplomacy.

What if it was a supervillain on the other side of the country? Or elsewhere in the world?

Or a supervillain who's actually good at what they do and actually poses a threat to Hobby?

edited 18th Oct '14 7:55:23 PM by TheSpaceJawa

Methinks that someone who decides to steal a C-List identity rather than create their own is probably not that good at what they do.

And "across the country" doesn't pose that much of a problem in real life, I wouldn't think. In a world where people can teleport vast distances it probably means even less.

edited 18th Oct '14 8:09:14 PM by CorrTerek

Guys who can stand up to Hobgoblin in a fight aren't going to be using the identities of C-list-and-below villains. They'll have their own identity. Hobgoblin generally finds common shmucks who want to be someone, which is why they're willing to pay for the equipment and costume necessary.

As far as Axis goes, I'm finding it not bad so far. Yeah, it's been two issues of fighting, but it's been entertaining fighting, and there has been some character stuff throughout it, too. Certainly more than Infinity ever had, and I would argue it actually does have more character stuff than Age of Ultron (though I will never be convinced that Age of Ultron wasn't a genuinely great story, and I'm not expecting Axis to be as good).

However, we're coming up on issue 3. Traditionally, this is when events start to falter. They may start strong, but issue 3 is generally when events start going bad.

edited 18th Oct '14 8:09:44 PM by Tiamatty

I hope we get a good goddamn reason why Carnage is in Magneto's army of supervillains.

The entire world slaughtering each other? This is Carnage's best day ever, and precisely what he was trying to accomplish in Maximum Carnage. He should be out celebrating! With blood!

He has no reason to be here on his own merits, and Magneto would have had to be completely batshit crazy to have invited him to be. Of all the villains showing up to the party, Carnage is the most nonsensical.

edited 19th Oct '14 6:20:38 AM by TobiasDrake

100% agreed

Which is actually kinda the point. Carnage vs. Deadpool ended with Carnage having a minor existential crisis as he began doubting the truth of chaos. Magneto's appeal to Carnage came down to, "What could be more random and chaotic than you trying to save the world?"

Plus, he outright mentions that, while he likes Red Onslaught's methods, he doesn't like the idea of being made to worship, serve, etc. him if he wins.

The new Jack O' Lantern, on the other hand, is clearly only there because Remender created him.

I guy was willing to buy Hydro-Man's old costume, which I'm pretty sure doesn't bestow powers to the wearer, from Hobgoblin. If that's the kind of person he's selling his stolen/replicated supervillain gear to, then I don't think he has much to worry about.

Didn't some mobster once buy the Venom suit?

Don Fortunato is the Mafia capo that purchased the symbiote for his son Angelo Fortunato.

And then he died when the Venom Symbiote abandoned him mid-air.

edited 19th Oct '14 10:32:22 AM by TheSpaceJawa

'Cause he was a huge pussy.

I found an awesome line in Fantastic Four #339. Gladiator and Thor are fighting, and Gladiator says, "When I choose to stand my ground, I cannot be moved!" Thor's response? "Braggart! Choose again!" Accompanied by a punch that knocks Gladiator down.

That is such a badass line.

A lot of Thor's best lines are just fancy ways of saying "Fuck you, bitch" or "Ya done fucked up".

"ULTRON! We would have words with thee!"

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You're right, it is just another fancy way of saying "You done goofed!"

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Although I would like Thor to say 'you done goofed' at some point.

"Craven knave! Thou hast done goofed! Have at thee!"

I mean, its like that first issue of Uncanny where Thor reveals he likes lattes. He's been around way long enough to be picking up on modern things like that but its always funny when he does.