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Yeah lets just chuck the whole Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch ain't Mag's kids thing right into garbage pile.

Even if it was a retcon at first they have been family for decades, most if not all of their development & storylines as well as in television & videogame adaptations comes from their relation to each other so all that history can't be written out simply because Magneto can never appear in any Avengers movie.

Pietro & Wanda will always be the children of Magneto no matter what.

edited 26th May '17 7:36:23 PM by slimcoder

I've been giving the entire MU Fanon Discontinuity for the last several years. This is nothing new for me.

Except Magneto being their dad was itself a retcon. Originally originally, they were the children of Golden-Agers Miss America and Whizzer.

Heh, Whizzer.

Yup I'm aware that's why I said even if it was a retcon.

Even then its one of those good retcons like Bucky becoming the Winter Soldier or Jason Todd being resurrected via the Lazarus Pits.

Wait, they're not his kids anymore?

I'm joking of course. I know Marvel attempted to retcon that in AXIS and the second run of Uncanny Avengers. Its just that it didn't really made an impact of a change with me (and to a greater extent the fans). Case in point, who here remembers anything that happened in Uncanny Avengers Volume 2? I barely remember anything that happened in that run besides the team being on Counter Earth and the Twins trying to uncover their real origin.

Its really is an unnecessary retcon atop on a widely accepted retcon (seriously, the whole original origin involving High Evolutionary and those two Golden Age Heroes is needlessly convuluted IMO).

Almost forgot about how they were going to use Whizzer and Miss Americs as their birth parents. Again, needlessly convoluted (though would of been an interesting connection between the Golden Age and Silver Age Marvel).

edited 26th May '17 7:57:52 PM by BigK1337

I imagine some people back then were pissed off too

"What? Wanda's real dad is the villain that mind controlled her into doing sexy dances and not the stand up retired speedster? Way to propel over a shark, Marvel!"

Given it was the 80s, Chris Claremont made Magneto into a good guy and Empire Strikes Back was a thing, I think they weren't complaining all that much.

It took that long to make them his kids?

Wow, I thought it was way earlier than that.

Indeed that's surprisingly recent.

Wait how old were Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch at that point?

I've been wondering how they're gonna handle it when they reach the point where even with his de-aging, Mags would've been too old to have believably known the young Xavier. Retcon him into, I dunno, a Serbian Genocide survivor rather than Holocaust, maybe?

Doesn't have the same impact. Let's say he wound up frozen for a decade or two.

I recall in one cartoon Mags used some kind of chamber to regain some of his youth so he doesn't become totally decrypt.

Just say something happened to the old guys in some adventure that made them live longer.

Yeah it's time to retcon Magneto back to being the baby daddy. Especially if it didn't even amount to much.

nah they should reretcon it back to the whizzer because god damn is his origin story and name too hilarious not to be brought up repeatedly in every comic ever

I know, even Spider Man in that one Spider Man cartoon nobody will shut the fuck about (the one from 90s, not the Spectacular one) comments on how ridiculous of a name Whizzer is. I suppose it's better than being called the Whiz (damn me and my planned out revised Marvel Universe and wanting to name the SS Whizzer that for the sake of making a Shout Out to The Wiz in naming).

But yeah I am surprise as everyone else as how recent the original retcon is. I always assumed at the beginning that the Maximoffs Twins were always Magneto's children due to the show X Men Evolution. It wasn't until 2009 when I decided to actually started reading comics from the Silver Age where I learned that they weren't his children at the time.

Making magneto the dad sure makes a lot of early interactions straight up emotional abuse

I think the best thing though is for Wanda and Pietro to just shrug and start acting like all the potential parent candidates are their parents and invite them to family events

Though I think only Magneto is alive so. Resurrect the Whizzer and Django and start inviting Logan to family functions because he is a possible daddy or just a creepy uncle

Either that or change who the parents are every decade. Steve Rogers should be their dad for a while. He certainly had to babysit them and Wanda didn't perv out too hard over him when she was first on the Avengers

And after they retcon it being Steve, let it be Doom. The choices should always be very awkward based on past interactions

edited 27th May '17 3:42:17 AM by Bocaj

The emotional abuse is needed, they are a dysfunctional family after all.

Its the twisted dynamic that makes it all so enjoyable since Pietro & Wanda have both wanted to murder Mags at one point or another.

At some point they all have to move on from that.

That would be the point where magic reveals that the paternity test lied and Steve Rogers is the real father

I think at this point the 3 get along or at least are capable of getting along fine.

The murderous intent only rages up when Mags is at his most mutant-pride, Pietro his most doucheyness & when Wanda's at her most bat-shit insane.

The fact that Marvel is doing this just because they don't have the movie rights just shows how childishly petty they can be.

They unintentionally left the perfect escape hatch for the retcon if need be (I think it was unintentional). At the very end of Remender's run (where we learned Pietro and Wanda's "true" origin) Vision learned something about Wanda that was supposedly devastating and was about to tell her, but lied to protect her feelings.

We never found out what it was he learned because Remender's run turned out to be an Aborted Arc. But when they inevitably bring back Magneto as the dad (which they will, believe it) they can just say Vision found out that the High Evolutionary lied and that Pietro and Wanda were Magneto's kids all along.

Or we'll learn that Wanda and Pietro are Galactus' children

Just saying. They keep on tying their origins into knots with retcons. Might as well have fun with it.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Angerboda_(Earth-616)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AngrboB0a

You know how Loki has gotten so much popularity in this decade. I keep wondering when are they ever going to bring back Angrboda, who is his giantess lover in the myths and she was seen only once in the 80's. First things first, they would have redesign her according to the new frost giant designs.

With a character like Angrboda, I feel they wasted a perfectly good character to make into a recurring villainous and ally of Loki. I also think she would have been an interesting on and off again love interest for him. Then again I would love for someone to remember that Angrboda exists and make her into a recurring villainess.

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