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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#7626: Dec 11th 2017 at 1:19:48 AM

[up][up] Citation Needed.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#7627: Dec 11th 2017 at 1:34:41 AM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
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FieldMarshalFry Field Marshal of Cracked from World Internet War 1 Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#7628: Dec 11th 2017 at 5:09:30 AM

What was being said that needed to be Thumped?

edited 11th Dec '17 5:09:48 AM by FieldMarshalFry

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#7629: Dec 11th 2017 at 5:19:46 AM

Edit: Actually, I don't think I'm allowed to answer anything about that.

edited 11th Dec '17 5:26:49 AM by AnotherDuck

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#7630: Dec 11th 2017 at 7:21:18 AM

[up][up]That question goes against the purpose of thumping

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#7631: Dec 11th 2017 at 1:57:34 PM

So just found out that the USA had some States with Marital Rape License up until 1993.

Holy fuck, you guys.

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Imca (Veteran)
#7632: Dec 11th 2017 at 2:00:45 PM

That's an improvments over us, we had it until 2 years ago. ._.;

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#7633: Dec 11th 2017 at 2:02:13 PM

In my personal experience, I've had a friend where that was the case in practice, about five or so years ago. Lived in Texas. She decided to escape and go under the radar since, so I've not heard from her.

edited 11th Dec '17 2:03:08 PM by AnotherDuck

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#7634: Dec 11th 2017 at 2:03:56 PM

Sure that the Marital Rape License is already gone in the US?

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#7635: Dec 11th 2017 at 2:10:26 PM

Were they legally enforced until then or was it like the US states that still have a sodomy laws on the books and the one US state (edit: it was Mississippi, of course it was Mississippi) that only outlawed slavery a few years ago (edit: 2013 to be precise).

edited 11th Dec '17 2:11:28 PM by Silasw

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#7636: Dec 11th 2017 at 2:13:29 PM

It's still legaly enforced in practice even if it is illegal on the books.

And from the sound of it that might be the case in the United States too.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#7637: Dec 11th 2017 at 2:25:37 PM

[up][up]I... WHAT?!

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#7638: Dec 11th 2017 at 2:31:02 PM

[up]Keep in mind that just because something's on the books doesn't mean it's enforced (or enforceable), like the sodomy laws or slavery. Still darkly hilarious.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#7639: Dec 11th 2017 at 2:32:04 PM

Yep, several US states still have their sodomy laws on the books, they’re not enforced but they are kept on the books because the state government would still like to be able to enforce them, but the feds step them.

Mississippi, it shouldnt be a surprise, this is the state that still flies the Confederate battle flag (due to them having made their state flag be the confederate battle flag on top of the French flag), it was a long campaign by one committed individual in Mississippi that finally got it to ratify the 13th amendment back in 2013.

edited 11th Dec '17 2:32:35 PM by Silasw

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#7640: Dec 11th 2017 at 2:54:04 PM

Holy fuck.

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Imca (Veteran)
#7641: Dec 11th 2017 at 2:58:41 PM

Agian the reverse is also true some times, while a ritual rape is now technical illegal back home.....

None of the courts enforce it, and always rule with the husband.

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#7642: Dec 11th 2017 at 4:59:35 PM

Legally, removing a law from any document is a time intensive and rather annoying process.

It is much easier to pretend it doesn't exist. You can find every sort of outdated or weird laws in every country. it gets much worse at federalist governments where the districts and states have the autonomy to create their own laws within the constitutional limits.

Sometimes you get some weird laws like not being allowed to put an icecream cone on your back pocket.

Even in Brazil, things like killing in defense of owns honor, martial rape and killing adulterous spouses were legal in some regions until a while ago.Though the honor killings aren't written in law they were accepted as defense argument a few decades ago.

edited 11th Dec '17 5:03:39 PM by AngelusNox

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Imca (Veteran)
#7643: Dec 11th 2017 at 5:03:02 PM

[up] That law isn't weird, its how they stole horses back when horses were something that were worth a lot of money and important.

By putting the ice cream in your back pocket the horse would just follow you, and you could claim that you didn't steal it, it just followed you home.

So they marked that on the books as illegal to prevent it.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#7644: Dec 11th 2017 at 5:36:29 PM

[up]That just supports their point, that law is no longer valid and thus removing it wouldn't be worth the time.

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Imca (Veteran)
#7645: Dec 11th 2017 at 5:45:33 PM

Good point, I am just so used to it being questioned as to why it was a law in the first place when people bring up ridiculous laws, when that one actually did have a point.... at some point.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#7646: Dec 11th 2017 at 5:49:48 PM

Horses are still worth a fair bit of money, so I fail to see why that loophole should be reopened.

Same with most of that list, bathing in public fountains, yeah still gross, bear wrestling, still wrong, not having wiper on your car, still dangerous, impersonating a priest, still wrong, baiting cattle onto railway tracks, still terrible, wearing a mask in public, something that’s being recently outlawed in a bunch of places.

The lantern law is kinda silly but makes sense if it’s just about alerting other vehicles to your presence, the women in divorce one (which I’d bet the article is wrong about and was written by a man) makes sense if society expects women to become homemaker and thus give up any chance at future earning.

The only stupid one is the fake mustashe one, honestly the main thing that that list make me think of as stupid is the person who wrote it.

edited 11th Dec '17 5:50:44 PM by Silasw

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Imca (Veteran)
#7647: Dec 11th 2017 at 5:53:22 PM

Wearing masks shouldn't be illegal any where TBH, there are plenty of legitimate uses for them.... but this is veering off topic.

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#7648: Dec 11th 2017 at 6:42:48 PM

The issue at hand is how outdated laws, specially those regarding sex abuse and martial rape are still laws mostly because people just forgot they were there and stopped enforcing them.

That is until someone actually bothered to look up for them and patch them out, so no smart ass digs an outdated law to get scot free because of a technicality.

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Imca (Veteran)
#7649: Dec 11th 2017 at 6:48:17 PM

Marital Rape is not outdated because they don't enforce it and forgot that it is there.

Both back home and apparently in the US as has been covered, it may be illegal now but the courts STILL enforce it.... as in they will side with the husband and say that it is the wifes duty.

It is the oppisite of "outdated but forgot about its existance"

edited 11th Dec '17 6:50:33 PM by Imca

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#7650: Dec 14th 2017 at 6:21:48 AM

I saw an article in a print copy of the New York Times, about why more sexual harassment claims aren't brought up to company Human Resources departments - in short, they are, and then HR is one more tool used to hammer the accusers. Partial quote of the article, emphasis mine (because I don't feel like typing it all and can't access NYT website from work):

Emery Lindsley was addressing her food and beverage staff at the Omni Corpus Christi Hotel in Texas in 2012 when a corporate executive placed his hand over her mouth to keep her from speaking.

He then began commenting on the appearance of a woman on Lindsley’s staff, even asking if the staff member had a steady relationship with her boyfriend, Lindsley recalled.

Lindsley reported the executive’s actions to her human resources department.

She made these allegations in a lawsuit she filed against Omni Hotels & Resorts and its parent company. “I was embarrassed and humiliated about how he had treated me in front of my team.”

“But she ignored me,” Lindsley said. “She didn’t seem to take it serious at all.”

...

“H.R.’s client is the company, which means that H.R. is supposed to protect the company’s interests,” Cynthia Calvert, a senior adviser to the Center for Work Life Law in San Francisco, said in an email.

The Uber engineer Susan Fowler said she had seen that calculus play out when she reported inappropriate messages from her manager to human resources. The individual was deemed a “high performer” and received only a warning about his behavior, Fowler wrote in a blog post.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

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