Sexism

I don't think being annoyed at that is wrong at-all. Personally it offends me because it shows a lack of discipline and respect for their partners.

edited 20th Jul '17 2:39:17 PM by Fourthspartan56

I agree. It is not something that comes up often, but I remember an ad from several years ago that showed a guy putting in a Herculean effort to listen to his girl for a few seconds.

Yeah it's a generally offensive stereotype. It plays men as children unable to focus on anything and incapable of being functioning adults, it plays women as no fun boarding fools ruining the good times.

It sucks for everyone who doesn't fit into the stereotype that their gender is forced into.

Not to mention it's discouraging of healthy relationships due to suggesting these outcomes are both to be expected and that nothing can be done to resolve them because the gender stereotypes are so hard-coded.

Are you implying it doesn't suck for people who fit those offensive stereotypes?

All of those lack of communication stereotypes are bad. Women aren't impregnable mysteries, and men aren't penile driven grunters. However, media feeds on those. They sell "advice" magazines, they force easily avoided conflict into stories, but most of all, they make people of different sexes have more trouble than necessary talking with each other.

Sexism helps feed materialism and consumerism, which is good for businesses and their profit margins. By perpetuating the myths that Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus — that we are fucking alien to each other — they are better able to sell us "advice", distractions in the form of material goods, and (ugh) alternatives.

Let me know if this isn't the right place, but local papers in the Philippines months ago slammed Chelsea Clinton when she condemned his rape comments.

Duterte fired back on her and asked if she condemned her father for the Lewinsky affair...

Two things:

1) "No, you" is an incredibly immature and stupid response...but I'm not surprised Duterte responded in this manner.

2) This is probably better suited for the Philippines Thread.

Bumping this back up since it's hurricane season:

Sexism means female hurricanes are deadlier than male ones, researchers claim. The idea is that people let gender expectations intrude in the decision making process and thus take female named hurricanes such as "Irma" less seriously than male named ones such as "Dennis".

Not a new finding and heavily contested. I don't remember if the original research did factor in that hurricanes in older times had solely female names; if they did and eliminated hurricanes from that time and the finding still holds it'd knock much of the disagreement out.

There is a silver lining though, people who die on hurricanes because they think the ones named after woman are somehow less deadly are surely contributing to natural selection.

edited 11th Sep '17 11:33:29 PM by AngelusNox

Not if the fault lies with the weather forecasters and other people who get to monitor the hurricanes from a safe place underestimating them in the first place. Most of these deaths are likely collateral damage.

edited 11th Sep '17 11:30:25 PM by AlleyOop

I don't think people deserve to die because they're sexist.

Especially since this is a subconscious thing. No one's consciously thinking, "this storm has a female name therefore it must be weak."

I wonder if it has something to do with people being used to the older tradition of only having female names, which means it's as usual if they have a female name (and as such less to worry about), but something new and potentially worth considering if they have a male name.

I also find it a bit strange, as weather is usually associated with temper, and women are stereotypically more emotional than men, what with "woman scorned" expressions and other things. Although that's looking in from the outside, as I'm not sure what gender I'd put on various weathers, if any.

I think we should start giving hurricanes excessively supervillian-esque names and see if that helps.

Lets see you underestimate Hurricane Soulflayer.

That is a great idea, also it sounds badass.

I don't think that anyone but people who are old and regularly run over by hurricanes will know the ins and outs of hurricane naming.

Not sure what "collateral damage" means, but if it means "most people are killed by forecasting errors" then it's far wrong. Many people are killed because the storm was just too bad. Most of the fatalities that hurricane Irma caused in the Caribbean are likely of this type. But a number of other weather-related fatalities occur from taking risks, e.g when people try to drive through a flooded street or procrastinate the flight until it's too late. These situations are where sexism would enter the equation.

I am also still stressing that the results of the study and backup are not 100% beyond doubt. It is certainly plausible though.

edited 12th Sep '17 8:19:13 AM by SeptimusHeap

Umm, wasn't the whole point of hurricane naming so that the news could use a quick snappy name to highlight the disaster? Giving them overly flamboyant titles would defeat the purpose.

How so? There just as snapy, and if any thing more memorable.

Your not going to forget a name like Soulflayer.

Crosses the Line Twice is a problem with such names.

Regrettably you're probably right.

Cycle ancient gods and goddesses of wind, weather, calamity and all things Bad News. Hurricanes Sekhmet, Adad and Zeus have a certain something to them.

edited 12th Sep '17 11:37:40 AM by Euodiachloris

The problem is expecting people to be able to pronounce that.

Seck-met. Seriously, giving various cultures air time (particularly the Meso-American ones) would be worth it. After a while, people would know how to say all the names in the cycle.

These might not be memorable enough for people outside of that sphere. Such as in Haiti.