ReHistory: Warwalker: The Mechoning: The Conversation

Yeah. His dad basically told him a very biased, propagandist version of events.

I'd imagine Shane believes that Hans will probably end up betraying the team or something, that, or the fact he is Heinrich Muller's son. Some nicknames of Daddy Muller include "Dr. Hell", "The Unholy", and "Belial".

Depends on how well an isolated Britain could have seized the tactical initiative once Russia started harassing them. British and American elements put a lot of pressure on Germany from the south (Italy) and the west (France) as the Russians pushed from the East. Germany could have had a lot more forces at their disposal to at least blunt the Russian advance, and while they couldn't win a war of attrition, the Russians would have lost a lot of momentum.

That debate is neither here nor there though. I want to assume Law of Conservation of Detail: Unless otherwise noted, no departure from reality.

How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?

No one would actually know who his dad is, though - you were able to sign up because he changed his name or pretended to be a different Muller or something in order to escape war crime trials.

Otherwise, if anyone knew who his dad actually was, they'd be ratting him out in seconds.

"Klicks" were popular in the Vietnam war. Considering the time period, I have elected to have Shane use them.

I would note that Operation: Overlord or some variation simply wouldnt have happened if not for the U.S. involvemnt in WWII. US and Russian leadership managed to get the British to agree to it by double-teaming them and the british certainly didnt have the ships or men required to pull off such an invasion by themselves. Technically, the US didnt either. They were rolling them straight from the factories to the preperation (this is particularly true of the landing craft).

On a larger scale WW 2 was also a war in the Pacific Ocean and the U.S. were the major allied combatant in that theater of war. They also delivered the atomic bombs which ended that part of the war. This often gets dismissed as an "American war" overlooking the larger issue of the second Sino-Japanese war. By the time they were brought to heel Japan was already dropping plague bombs over Chinese villages and had a good number of "Units" (medical death camps) running in an attempt to commit genocide on the chinese.

I...seem to have let my recent studies in military history run away with me.

edited 7th Jun '12 10:15:03 AM by Stormthorn

While the breath's in his mouth, he must bear without fail, / In the Name of the Empress, the Overland Mail.

Oh, right, hmm.

How very awkward.

So, after this mission is done, will there be time for character interaction and such?

dem Victory Ships. Ship a day keeps the Germans away!

That'd be fun, since if you want to take the War approach, the Germans paved the Netherlands in less than a week.

How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?

and

I support character interaction times.

While the breath's in his mouth, he must bear without fail, / In the Name of the Empress, the Overland Mail.

Yeah, I'm in support of them too.

In fact, I think the RP maybe should've started with that, instead of going straight to a mission. But oh well, too late now, might as well go on with it, yadda yadda and such, etc..

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I second this notion, that we should have started with introductions and interaction rather than a mission.

But after the mission you'll all have something to talk about, so there's that!

All of you need to blame Stormthorn, he's the one who wanted to get to the combat quicker.

Why, hello there. Would you care to join our little game?

Oh, and, uh, I was going to wait a bit to see if SOCR wanted to post... but they already posted in this discussion thread... so... I guess that means that I'll assume Aleida is doing exactly what Shane asked? I'll throw something at you guys in a little bit, but I'll give SOCR a chance to get in a post, just in case.

I do want to post, just preoccupied atm lol. I check my thread watchlist during brief breaks.

also to avoid being pluralized, I'm a chick XD

edited 7th Jun '12 7:31:24 PM by SOCR

How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?

That's okay, take your time - no rush. I just wasn't entirely sure what was going on.

Yes, just to make it clear - WWII involved the normal European Axis, but Japan was pretty busy in their own war with Russia and China, so they never fought against America, which means they never got nuked, which is why they're still the Empire of Japan.

Also, since it'll be a bit awkward to just randomly put this in as your characters walk, I'll post it here, and when you're ready, the lead mech (or drone) at the time would pick it up:

Two miles from the landing zone*

the sensors will pick up a small moving object up ahead. It's a clearing about 600 feet away when the sensors turn on, and roughly a square shape - 400 feet per side - where a single jeep is driving around. Would they still be called jeeps in this timeline? And if anyone looked closely, you'd see three guys - driver, passenger, back seat.

edited 8th Jun '12 7:14:33 AM by nman

That would depend on if the company/company branch that made them was still called Jeep in this timeline.

Anyway, a WWII where America and Japan didn't fight? Brings up some interesting questions and changes that would have to be done. Either Japan didn't need America's oil trade/decided they didn't even if they did, or America decided it didn't care for China that much in this timeline.

It does bring up a couple issues though, one easier to solve away than the other, I would think. The easier being: How did America get involved in the European war then? The whole Pearl Harbor thing was a big deal in more ways than one. Up until then, the American citizenry had been remembering the shitstorm that was WWI and were saying "Nuh uh, we don't want to go through that again." The battle of Pearl Harbor opened their eyes to realize that the war wasn't going to pass them by just because they wanted it to.

The harder problem you actually mentioned in your own post:

America may have really hated Russia during the Cold War, but in WWII, they were America's ally. If Japan was fighting against Russia during WWII, it begs the question of why the hell America didn't sail over to help out.

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Even before Pear Harbor large portions of America wanted to enter the war on Europe's side. Just a matter of politics. Perhaps the 'other side won' this time.

How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?

Grrr, sorry, I wrote about a mini-Cold War with Russia and China in a PM I sent out on the issue, guess I botched the copy job for that post. I tried to go the Red Alert 3 route where Japan was just off doin' their own thing on that island of theirs, mixed in with occasionally fighting with the Chinese, and constant screaming contests with the Russians. And if there are still any holes in that explanation, blame those commies.

But! Hold on to your hat there, bucko, I already solved that "America gets involved in the war" problem on day one, not only for WWII, but WWI as well - I attributed it to Tesla and Edison's ever-escalating dick-measuring contest. You can go check out the timeline on the first post of the signup for the details.

Only the whole Japan being at war with China technically leading to their war on America thing.

Which like I mentioned before, could be fixed by saying either America didn't give a crap about China in this timeline, or saying Japan didn't give a crap about the resources they were (Or rather, weren't.) getting from American trade.

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Oh, that... yes, let's just assume no one cared enough about China to go out there. Or rather, that Tesla and Edison were more interested in using their toys to blow up those crazy German jet tanks, increasing their popularity with European governments as they weaseled their way into power all over the place - compared to that, fighting conventional battles over there in Asia just wasn't worth it.

Additionally, someone might have though that if they left Japan and China pretty much alone, that the Soviets would always have their hands full.

And damn it, I forgot that I had a little mission header written up. Nothing plot-changing, just a list of stuff and a name/number for the mission, I added it to my last post in the RP.

edited 8th Jun '12 7:02:52 PM by nman

Either you timeskipped or you got some distances wrong, Firock :P

How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?

We arnt running on any hard system. It would be pointless to make a post every twenty yards of movement, so I dont see a problem with his skip (except perhaps that it custs past some peoples chance to speak) past the walking to the encounter the DM already told us we would be getting. Of note: He hasnt acted beyond mentioning the mob.

While the breath's in his mouth, he must bear without fail, / In the Name of the Empress, the Overland Mail.

Two hundred yards = six hundred feet. So I didn't mess up distance unless I misunderstood something.

Nman said it'd be awkward to just put it in as our characters were walking, so I assumed he meant he wanted us to post about it, not him. Since then I've been waiting to let Insano do it since his mech is technically in the lead, but it's been a few days so I decided 'screw it'.

I can edit that though if there's a problem.

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well it'd be nice to at least have a note in your narrative, "After several minutes of travel" or something XD

talk about minimal posts so far.

is probably what you missed

edited 8th Jun '12 10:33:10 PM by SOCR

How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?

Oh, that? Our three light mechs out in front can travel at upwards of 60 MPH. It'd take them less than two minutes to cover the needed distance. With no other contacts between the drop zone and then, there wouldn't be much to talk about.

I mean, that's the way I figure it. If Nman or everyone else has a problem with that though, I can edit. No biggie.

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Well, im with you. As i posted earlier (and SOCR ignored), the DM already stated what and where the encounter would be, so I fail to see why we would need a buncha posts of walking to get there, regardless of travel speed.

For instance, if one was playing D&D, the details of every day of an overland march are unimportant. All that is is the random encounter and whatever resources were expended. This being a much looser system and a much shorter distance, im not sure what we COULD have meaningfully posted in between.

While the breath's in his mouth, he must bear without fail, / In the Name of the Empress, the Overland Mail.