Suggestion: Attack Pattern Alpha

The page currently doesn't have a pic. I suggest this one◊.

edited 23rd May '12 11:24:42 AM by Spark9

1. Didn't we have this thread, where this image was suggested? Oh yes we did. With the same person suggesting the same image.

2. Image is Not An Example: Those jets are the USAF Thunderbirds, an acrobatic and demonstration squadron. This isn't an "attack pattern", it's an air show.

Yes, and nobody responded to that before the thread was locked, so a new thread seems fitting.

Given the examples already on the page, I think an air show would fit equally well. That said, here is another suggestion◊.

I like that one in that it illustrates the concept (Code word for a tactic/maneuver).

However at this size... It's unreadable and REALLY hard to make out.

Trope is "Attack patterns are a convenient way of saying, 'The good guys attack the bad guys and they know what they're doing,' without going into any detail whatsoever."

No image is better than (new or old) suggestions, which depict a specific attack pattern. Can't imagine what a good page image would look like.

I didn't support the Thunderbirds pic in the last thread because it didn't show the trope fully. Now, the snowspeeder pic, that's a great suggestion.

I thought the point was that the plan is not specifically described. That's a depiction of the name but not the description.

It's not necessary for the maneuver to be described or shown visually, but it's possible to do so, and in that case it's still the same trope.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding or plain missing something, but it seems like the article says describing the attack pattern is not only unnecessary, it is important that it's not described. The trope is mentioning but not describing it.

Wouldn't that make it redundant to Unspoken Plan Guarantee?

Um, no. They both involve a plan that isn't described, but otherwise they are not very similar.

edited 23rd May '12 4:38:46 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Clock is set.

Okay, let's put up the pic from post 3.

It's not loading for me now.

Works fine for me.

Got it now; here it is at 350 px.

edited 7th Jul '12 4:23:30 PM by Willbyr

Oppose for reasons already described. That is not the trope; it would harm the page by being misleading. Would like to hear an opinion from someone who hasn't posted in this thread, though.

Attack Pattern Alpha is about the order, not the action that follows. Specifically an order that's basically Techno Babble in that it sounds tactical but doesn't actually mean anything, allowing any kind of action to be shown.

I don't have any idea how to picture it, though.

Looking over the examples, it is clearly incorrect to claim that if the pattern is shown or described, it's no longer this trope. So yes, this picture is an example.

But the trope is saying "attack pattern alpha" (or whatever), not the actual pattern.

Sorry to say, but statements like that is why we still have Eddie's stickied "Too quick pulls, literalism in Image Pickin'" thread. No, this image isn't perfect. Yes, it is much better than a blank. We leave too many pages blank as it is.

"...it is much better than a blank."

No, it's awful. Even if it fit, which it doesn't, I can barely read it. Much worse than no image. It's not what the trope is about and doesn't help understanding at all.

"We leave too many pages blank as it is."

That is not true. The dictum was about pulling images that aren't doing harm, not adding questionable images. That post is about making pages blank, not leaving pages blank. There is nothing wrong with a page not having an image.

edited 8th Jul '12 1:51:35 PM by rodneyAnonymous

There is no practical difference between opposing an image that's suggested, and opposing an image that's already there. The point is that certain people are too quick to dislike an image if it's not absolutely perfect.

That link is to a thread about pulling images.

"There is no practical difference between opposing an image that's suggested, and opposing an image that's already there."

Uh, wow. Yes there is. Big difference.

My objection is not that it's "not perfect". ^note Pretty sure I would never make such a criticism, perfection is an impossibly high bar. Generally oppose nitpicking. My objection is that it's "not good at all".

edited 10th Jul '12 8:14:43 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Cool it.

How about the last two panels of this or the first two or four panels of this?