Duplicate Trope: Mouthy Kid and Bratty Half Pint

I hope I'm not repeating somethign here but these two tropes seem incredibly similar to me.

A Mouthy Kid is a child with a mouth who talks back to adults.

A Bratty Half-Pint is a kid with an attitude.

Isn't it pretty much the same?

I suggest merging those two tropes into one because there is hardly any difference there or maybe could someone clarify it?

There's a difference. Mouthy implies they're street smart and give adults no more respect than what another kid would get, a positive trope. Bratty implies they're mean, completely disrespectful, and don't know what they're talking about, a negative trope. Leave it, and if it's getting conflated, clean them. I'm getting really damn sick of all the cuts for tropes just because people don't know how they work.

None of what you said is in the description of Mouthy Kid. In fact, Mouthy Kid barely has a description.

Consider it my personal take, then. If it lacks a description, perhaps we should think of one.

I'm with you on that one but I didn't suggest a "cut", just a clarification or a merge. And the fact remains that a Mouthy Kid is still disrespectful since, as you acknowledged yourself, they don't respect adults. So it's not positive, sorry.

Another thing, it's the first time I do this so stop talking like you're a mod or something. If you know so much better than anyone else how everything works, then go to the tropes, apply your wonderful expertise to them so they become crystal clear for lesser minds such as myself and I assure you no one will ever have the outrageous gall of asking for clarifications again.

As they said above, Mouthy Kid is hardly described. So either expand it and explain how it's different from Bratty Half-Pint (making a link to this in Bratty Half-Pint), or don't do anything but don't come bitching.

edited 12th May '12 1:37:15 PM by Alrune