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Drakohahn Since: Oct, 2009
#1651: Mar 28th 2016 at 2:36:13 PM

I think if I'm going to use VTOL, it'll be standard helicopters.

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#1652: Mar 29th 2016 at 3:29:19 AM

So, I had a, probably, insane idea about your Gundam on Ice Age. Because most land area, including pastures, basically covered in ice, most people already moves their protein source from land-based livestock to other things.

No, dear sir, no that Kuntala thing.

Oceanic-based livestock. Whales and the likes.

And the best thing from it: genetically engineered orcas/ dolphins. As marine equivalent of sheepdogs.

edited 29th Mar '16 3:30:30 AM by RBomber

Drakohahn Since: Oct, 2009
#1653: Mar 29th 2016 at 11:54:57 AM

[up]That may be difficult to implement, but it makes a very odd degree of sense. Because that just made me think of Eskimos.

EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Drakohahn Since: Oct, 2009
#1655: Mar 31st 2016 at 5:37:28 PM

Hmm... So, I brought up Mountain Cycles for my potential Ice Age Gundam story. What should be discovered in them? I mean, I should figure out what Humanity will be reverse engineering for their technology and basing their own Mobile Weapons on.

amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#1656: Mar 31st 2016 at 5:46:33 PM

Have you thought about the excavated facility having once been a war museum?

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#1657: Mar 31st 2016 at 5:56:46 PM

[up][up]What aesthetic do you like in your giant robot stories? Use that.

It really is that simple.

What's precedent ever done for us?
Drakohahn Since: Oct, 2009
#1658: Mar 31st 2016 at 9:19:36 PM

[up][up]Personally, I'd include the MS of SEED Destiny's Terminal. I guess they could be found in a museum long after the Second Bloody Valentine's War.

[up]I love all Gundam, so that is a lot more difficult to answer than you'd think.

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#1659: Apr 1st 2016 at 1:20:44 AM

Wait, so this is basically AU/ future version of SEED-verse? Because if it is, then the strong racial hatred present in SEED makes a very convenient plot device for "justified"... feeding habit.

Also, except if said base/ facility are well-equipped and having constant maintenance, then everything there can be expected to "not in working order when found" at best, or outright scrapped at worst. WW 2 tanks are used by both sides during recent Crimean conflict, some of them are war memorial, but: a. They relatively easy to repair and rearmed, being rather low-tech with minimal electronic, and b. They designed to fight in Ural Region, including swamps, which, in general, can be summed up as "cold bitch who doesn't care about humanity at best, and outright vicious during winter".

Drakohahn Since: Oct, 2009
#1660: Apr 1st 2016 at 1:00:33 PM

[up]Nope. Not an AU or future of the Cosmic Era. I just like the Cosmic Era. Though, being honest, I had been thinking of this Ice Age Gundam idea of mine originally as a massive crossover between all the Gundam timelines. But now I think it'd make a great Original Gundam timeline on its own so here I am.

And one of the main things about Mountain Cycles is that the machines have been preserved by cocoons of nanomachines. So, it would be easy enough to justify any piece of Gundam tech being included in a setting where those exist.

unlikelyauthor from the forge Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1661: Apr 1st 2016 at 7:46:58 PM

So does this mean we might see the unholy bastard child of GN particle tech and psychoframestongue

Fate Grand Order players will know me as Ryusei-Go.
alphazoid from Blood Gulch Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#1662: Apr 1st 2016 at 8:26:55 PM

[up] .... Not lying, I may steal your idea. That sounds too good to pass up.

Suck it, troper!
RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#1663: Apr 2nd 2016 at 12:02:24 AM

Cosmic Era, for all their flaws, has rather memorable mecha design and interesting (engineering) tech. Even if some people doesn't like "backpacks", I kinda, honestly, like it.

As for surviving tech, that depends. While technology to preserve life should be main priority (energy generation, food production, water purification, etc.), aside from that, not much known. Communication technology survival depends on paranoia level and how much guys with weapon basically willing to goes 'partying' on the ones with no weapon. Vehicular tech should be similar, but large enough area depends on each other ensures that vehicular tech is a priority. Weapon tech, in a pinch, will be repurposed for survival means (salvage reactor for energy, trading arm weapon with general engineering manipulator, etc.).

That's the gist for it, at least for now....

Drakohahn Since: Oct, 2009
#1664: Apr 2nd 2016 at 2:14:57 AM

[up]In a world like this, of course there's going to be pirates and raiders. So communication and weaponry are going to be very important. Especially since small arms would be useful for hunting. The ability to transport large amounts of people and supplies is going to determine just how far away from large cities and the supply production places humanity can get, so vehicles are going to be important as well.

There's also the issue of smaller villages that have less access to electricity for heating and other amenities.

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#1665: Apr 2nd 2016 at 3:13:54 AM

Biomass reactor were mostly used in 3rd world country as alternatives to wood, so that locals won't use protected forest as fuel source. Install one big tank, tell some guys how to maintenance it, and it run practically forever. Don't know how in Africa or Alaska, but it works in my country.

Also, communication is, especially in the part when civilizations already collapsed and the living start reorganizing, kind of double-edged sword. Sure, it helps you find other survivors and organize them, but in other hand, dedicated and/or tech-savvy raiders can track communication source and found new raiding target.

On weapon and defense: There's some precedence on MS weapon basically repurposed as stationary turret. Depending of the weapons of the raider, this might work as deterrence, especially after memorable demonstration. [lol]

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#1666: Apr 2nd 2016 at 5:00:40 AM

Minovsky particles would be appallingly nasty in this setting. Cutting off communication in a world that hostile would be tantamount to a death penalty in many circumstances.

Imagine if mobile suits were new and unfamiliar, and a bandit gang running an illegal mine was the first to uncover a mountain cycle. Towns and villages would go silent all of a sudden - no alarms, no distress calls, just a scheduled communication that's delayed and delayed and never happens. When their neighbours send a search party out, they find nothing, just scorched corpses, crumbled buildings, and a landscape deformed by immensely powerful weaponry.

There are other things, too - footsteps in the snow, impossibly huge and too deep for even the custom roostertails of bandit vehicles to hide. The more superstitious men speak of Jotnar, giants in the ice.

Finally, it's too much - they try to calculate the route the attackers are taking, band together with other towns and nationlets and assemble a militia, and set an ambush on the route to the next target.

The weather is bad - it's midwinter, the sun never more than a dull glow behind the clouds, the landscape blending into a spray of white as the snow piles down. They huddle around their heat units, hiding the light behind blankets and holding their guns in gloved, trembling hands. Their radios, never reliable in these arctic conditions, begin to fail entirely, belching out white noise that's nearly drowned by the blizzard. Whatever it is, it's coming.

Then they see it, a light in the distance, faint, red, and oscillating unevenly. The storm picks up a rhythm, a slow, thudding drumbeat like the heart of some great, ancient monster. A shape begins to take form, black against the swirling white, hazy and indistinct and growing slowly, horribly clearer, alien and eerily familiar at once.

Its footsteps cease. It raises its weapon. The killing starts.

edited 2nd Apr '16 5:01:47 AM by Iaculus

What's precedent ever done for us?
RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#1667: Apr 2nd 2016 at 5:28:25 AM

...Okay, I think you watched too much Attack on Titan. Or maybe Spec Ops: The Line.

...GIMME BACK MY GLORIOUS, GLORIOUS SLEEP, DAMMIT!!

Drakohahn Since: Oct, 2009
#1668: Apr 2nd 2016 at 5:34:53 AM

[up][up].... Damn. You were able to make that up on the fly like that? I have so much to learn as a writer.

Though, it's for that reason why I'm not going to have Minovsky or any other Particles that interfere with communications in my story. In a harsh world of ice, Humanity needs all kinds of warmth to survive!

edited 2nd Apr '16 5:35:08 AM by Drakohahn

EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#1669: Apr 2nd 2016 at 10:16:23 AM

.....dude. Wow. I totally just got goosebumbs.

Drakohahn Since: Oct, 2009
#1670: Apr 2nd 2016 at 11:49:35 AM

You know... that makes me think that the potential main character of my first work into this setting is from a tribe that is mostly out of contact with the rest of the world and his village shaman tells tales of Humanity's ancient giant slaves.

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#1671: Apr 3rd 2016 at 4:25:21 AM

Okay, just remember though, Gundam protagonist, so far, never been a total Instant Expert; From Amuro Ray to Mikazuki Augus to Loran Cehack, all having some training in driving mech, even if it's only civilian mech/ simulator. This is important, especially since walking in mech is rather different than, say, driving in threads.

This is not Zone Of Enders, where you have chirpy AI doing all your homework for you. [lol]

Drakohahn Since: Oct, 2009
#1672: Apr 3rd 2016 at 6:32:06 AM

[up]Actually, I was thinking this tribal character, if I do go that route, wouldn't end up as a Gundam Pilot... Though he could technically go the Lowe Guele route with an AI assistant if he does... Nah. This would probably end up a side story prequel or something.

Drakohahn Since: Oct, 2009
#1673: Apr 4th 2016 at 7:31:16 PM

If I do end up giving things beam weapons, what would that mean for the icy environment?

alphazoid from Blood Gulch Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#1674: Apr 4th 2016 at 8:06:50 PM

Actually, Wing covered that one for you already! When the high temperature beams hit the ice/snow, it will superheat and immediately turn to steam, which will drastically reduce visibility. Otherwise, it won't affect very much.

Suck it, troper!
EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#1675: Apr 4th 2016 at 8:08:24 PM

I feel as if something like that should've happened in the UC and/or CE timelines as well, but damn if I could point to an example of it actually happening.


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