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Jordan Azor Ahai from Westeros Since: Jan, 2001
Azor Ahai
#151: May 6th 2012 at 12:57:26 AM

I'm pretty skeptical of the argument that Korra is a Sue in that while she is overpowered in her universe, so is every other Avatar that has been or will be. I guess I do feel a bit iffy about her twice singlehandedly winning the match for her team, but that's more an issue of it not being all that fair to allow the Avatar to play, not because it conflicts with the abilities she'd be expected to have.

Hodor
FarseerLolotea from America's Finest City Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#152: May 6th 2012 at 1:00:23 AM

Well, yeah. While the rules of the setting do bend around her, they only seem to do so to the degree that it'd been previously established that they would. If that makes sense.

Also, I thought no one generally dared gainsay a Sue, for fear of immediately losing any sympathetic-character status. People definitely dare gainsay Korra.

edited 6th May '12 1:03:02 AM by FarseerLolotea

Rebochan Since: Jan, 2001
#153: May 6th 2012 at 1:08:32 AM

I'd be interested in that quote if you've got it. I've long despised how Mary Sue no longer has any meaning because people throw it around so freely.

FarseerLolotea from America's Finest City Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#154: May 6th 2012 at 1:16:37 AM

"So, there’s this girl. She’s tragically orphaned and richer than anyone on the planet. Every guy she meets falls in love with her, but in between torrid romances she rejects them all because she dedicated to what is Pure and Good. She has genius level intellect, Olympic-athelete level athletic ability and incredible good looks. She is consumed by terrible angst, but this only makes guys want her more. She has no superhuman abilities, yet she is more competent than her superhuman friends and defeats superhumans with ease. She has unshakably loyal friends and allies, despite the fact she treats them pretty badly. They fear and respect her, and defer to her orders. Everyone is obsessed with her, even her enemies are attracted to her. She can plan ahead for anything and she’s generally right with any conclusion she makes. People who defy her are inevitably wrong.

God, what a Mary Sue."

Sound familiar?*

That said, much as the term is used to excess and used problematically, I don't think the concept is entirely irrelevant. There are, in fact, some godawful Creator's Pet characters out there.

edited 6th May '12 1:19:26 AM by FarseerLolotea

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#155: May 6th 2012 at 1:16:45 AM

Tahno/Tahno, OT-FUCKING-P.

Mai4eternity Michiru's House o Leaves Since: Sep, 2011
Michiru's House o Leaves
#156: May 6th 2012 at 1:18:54 AM

[up]Seconded. Which makes for an interesting love polygon with Tahno, Tahno, Tahno, and Tahno's hair gel.

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#157: May 6th 2012 at 1:20:13 AM

[up] And lets throw Tahno and Tahno in their to make it even more interesting. tongue

Mai4eternity Michiru's House o Leaves Since: Sep, 2011
Michiru's House o Leaves
#158: May 6th 2012 at 1:28:20 AM

[up]As well as Tahno's guyliner and Tahno's groupies. And more Tahno.

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#159: May 6th 2012 at 1:29:48 AM

Oh, and don't forget Tahno's shirt. Or Tahno's pants. Or Tahno's shoes. Or Tahno.

Mai4eternity Michiru's House o Leaves Since: Sep, 2011
Michiru's House o Leaves
#160: May 6th 2012 at 1:35:11 AM

I think we have run out of Tahno-related objects to ship him with. Or am I missing something?

Edit: I've got it! More Tahno!

edited 6th May '12 1:40:14 AM by Mai4eternity

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#161: May 6th 2012 at 1:40:29 AM

Tahno's belt. Tahno's reflection. Tahno!

truteal animation elitist from the great southern land Since: Sep, 2009
animation elitist
#162: May 6th 2012 at 1:56:19 AM

The fact that Mako broke up with Asami and hooked up with Korra for no apparent reason makes Korra look Sueish

edited 6th May '12 2:02:04 AM by truteal

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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#163: May 6th 2012 at 1:57:49 AM

[up] When did that happen? To my knowledge, Mako was still with Asami, and Korra was still single at the end of the latest episode.

truteal animation elitist from the great southern land Since: Sep, 2009
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#165: May 6th 2012 at 2:03:35 AM

[up] How would you know what happens next episode?

DOmen Since: Jul, 2010
#166: May 6th 2012 at 2:14:38 AM

wild mass guesstruteal is a Time Lowild mass guess *is shot*

Rebochan Since: Jan, 2001
#167: May 6th 2012 at 2:23:32 AM

Truteal, even if that DID happen, why would that make Korra a Sue? At all?

Jordan Azor Ahai from Westeros Since: Jan, 2001
Azor Ahai
#168: May 6th 2012 at 2:26:21 AM

Not to pile on, but Mako actually knows Korra longer than he knows Asami (albeit not by much), not to mention that while not necessarily a Sue, Asami seems kind of closer to the idea given her seeming perfection.

Hodor
FarseerLolotea from America's Finest City Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#169: May 6th 2012 at 2:38:56 AM

...so if character A (who happens to be a teenager—read "most thick-headed mammal known to humanity") does something foolish on behalf of character B, that makes character B a Sue?

...wat.

windweaver Since: Nov, 2011
#170: May 6th 2012 at 2:43:25 AM

Welcome to the insane asylum bro. Your first mistake was expecting rationale from the shipping fanbase. Remember, all of us are psycho until proven otherwise tongue myself included.

I kid I kid. Only slightly though. Yeah, sometimes it's best to ignore this sort of crazy when it's obvious it's done because a person doesn't like a specific character. I think your batman quote sums up a lot of this pretty well.

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#171: May 6th 2012 at 2:46:06 AM

Plus, it didn't happen...

ShadowScythe from Australia Since: Dec, 2009
#172: May 6th 2012 at 2:49:37 AM

Asami seems kind of closer to the idea given her seeming perfection.

Not really. She doesn't have much of a personality or a role beyond being the Veronica of the love triangle thus far. A Sue dominates the story, everyone tends to go on about how great they are, is generally perfect and whose flaws are just there to make them seem even more perfect (THEY'RE TOO HELPFUL!)

In that respect Korra's not a Sue, she was still kinda bratty though and I found her rather unlikeable the way she kept forcing herself on a guy who's already taken. She does have a tendency not to get called out on her bullshit or not called out enough (Tenzin back in ep 2 should've really given her shit for being such an insolent little punk) but I still wouldn't say that makes her a Sue.

Truteal's example could potentially make her a Sue in that people are bending over backwards for her, but it depends on the execution. Frankly I'm not a fan of this love triangle, especially the way it's escalated so quickly, and it would be a rather sudden turn of events if what Truteal said is true but again...I'd rather wait and see how it turns out before claiming Mary Sue.

edited 6th May '12 2:51:45 AM by ShadowScythe

GrandPrincePaulII Imperial knight from Western Eurasia Since: Oct, 2010
Imperial knight
#173: May 6th 2012 at 3:03:30 AM

[up] Asami is the Betty to Korra's Veronica.

Calling Korra out is apparently Lin's job. I hope she and Asami will get more screen time in the next episodes.

Lazy and pathetic.
ShadowScythe from Australia Since: Dec, 2009
#174: May 6th 2012 at 3:07:45 AM

The usual dynamic is that "Betty", often the hero's best friend, is herself deeply in love with "Archie" (who might see them as Just Friends or being Like Brother and Sister, hence his obliviousness to her feelings), whilst "Veronica" is the sultry Ms. Unattainable who, despite attracting the hero's attention, barely notices his existence. "Betty" will want the hero to be happy and thus suppress her own desire to help the hero in his quest to win over "Veronica". Another possibility is that "Archie" and "Betty" are already in a relationship, but then "Veronica" starts batting her eyelashes, causing friction between the couple.

Korra and Mako aren't in a relationship but Asami basically exists to make their relationship more complicated, she doesn't have much going for her beyond that.

Calling Korra out is apparently Lin's job. I hope she and Asami will get more screen time in the next episodes.

I hope so too, Lin seemed pretty awesome and I always like a character who calls out the protagonist on their actions.

RandomChaos No Dragon Power from My own little world Since: Oct, 2011
No Dragon Power
#175: May 6th 2012 at 6:49:41 AM

Nagga has the right idea

edited 6th May '12 6:50:11 AM by RandomChaos

With the power of a dragon I can make up for my inability to spill.

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