Off-site preservation of the content that's leaving TVT?

I would be more worried if it would attract the wrong kind of legal scrutiny that gets people in serious trouble.

Does TV Tropes even have a "legal page"?

Article 4(c) of the CC-by-SA 3.0 provided:

If You Distribute, or Publicly Perform the Work or any Adaptations or Collections, You must [...] keep intact all copyright notices for the Work and provide, reasonable to the medium or means You are utilizing: (i) the name of the Original Author (or pseudonym, if applicable) if supplied, and/or if the Original Author and/or Licensor designate another party or parties (e.g., a sponsor institute, publishing entity, journal) for attribution ("Attribution Parties") in Licensor's copyright notice, terms of service or by other reasonable means, the name of such party or parties; (ii) the title of the Work if supplied[...] The credit required by this Section 4(c) may be implemented in any reasonable manner; provided, however, that in the case of a Adaptation or Collection, at a minimum such credit will appear, if a credit for all contributing authors of the Adaptation or Collection appears, then as part of these credits and in a manner at least as prominent as the credits for the other contributing authors. For the avoidance of doubt, You may only use the credit required by this Section for the purpose of attribution in the manner set out above and, by exercising Your rights under this License, You may not implicitly or explicitly assert or imply any connection with, sponsorship or endorsement by the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties, as appropriate, of You or Your use of the Work, without the separate, express prior written permission of the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties.

Some terms to clarify in the context of TV Tropes:

• You: TV Tropes, or TV Tropes readers, or anyone who read materials that was ultimately from TV Tropes (which would include such wikis with branched-out content such as those in discussion)
• Original authors: The tropers
• Licensor: Tropers license to TV Tropes. TV Tropes licenses content to anyone who read it, etc. In that case, tropers and TV Tropes can both be licensors.
• TV Tropes is best categorized as a "Collection."

My interpretation is: Any such receptacles would need to say who wrote it (the tropers). They are not allowed to say it has "any connection with, sponsorship or endorsement by" any troper or TV Tropes.

Although Fast Eddie's concern was mainly the fact a TV Tropes mod providing such material would be construed as them authorizing such content. I'm unsure how to deal with that, because CC-by-SA-3.0 did not clearly say whether licensors can choose who can read the material.

edited 28th Apr '12 8:12:43 PM by SamCurt

This one, correct?

But that's a legal page provided by creative commons that TV Tropes wiki is supposed to follow. I'm wondering if there's a page by the wiki that its users are supposed to follow.

Something like Privacy Policy and Disclaimers pages from Mario Wiki.

If there is none, then if content was directly exported from this site and mirrored elsewhere then TV Tropes would have no legal standing to say anything.

edited 28th Apr '12 8:26:25 PM by abstractematics

TV Tropes can forbid those material from being associated with TV Tropes. They can use tropers' input for commercial purposes. I think that's all I can think of.

Ok, actually, Tropes has a Privacy Policy page, but maybe a Terms of Use page is more like it. If there isn't one, that means it defers the legality to its license (CC).

Wikimedia has a Terms of Use page: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_use

edited 28th Apr '12 8:29:52 PM by abstractematics

So legally speaking TV Tropes would have a legal safe harbor to give away original source codes of the offending pages, IMO, as they're not supposed to be endorsed by the individual tropers who wrote the content. This is especially true after they have cut the pages.

Okay, this is enough. We are not debating licensing, copyright, or anything else. Eddie is under no obligation to make the source of cut pages available to anyone. If we decide to cut this material, it's gone. Figure out how to preserve it yourself.

Locking.

edited 28th Apr '12 8:51:59 PM by Fighteer