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Enzeru icon by implodingoracle from Orlando, FL ¬ôχಠ♥¯ Since: Mar, 2011
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#51: May 17th 2012 at 7:37:32 AM

[up]Same with the Magus The Traitor theory. They trick you by attaching his voice to the hooded figure.

[up][up]When did Katherine and Tom ever make out?

blueflame724 Since: May, 2010
#52: May 17th 2012 at 7:38:14 AM

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But didn't the archmage have a role as well?

edited 17th May '12 7:38:42 AM by blueflame724

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Gray64 Since: Dec, 1969
#53: May 17th 2012 at 9:06:18 PM

[up][up] Again, I may be misremembering, but I believe it was presented during a montage scene of the Magus's memories in which he is remembering his time on Avalon and how Tom and Katherine grew closer together; "making out" may be a bit strong, since I think they just kissed, but they were definitely acting frolicsome.

Wasn't Katherine portrayed as having been kind of irrationally afraid of the Gargoyles since childhood, as an explanation of her initial attitude?

blueflame724 Since: May, 2010
#55: Oct 22nd 2012 at 8:32:06 PM

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YES!!!

Now release the rest of the DVD's!

edited 22nd Oct '12 8:32:41 PM by blueflame724

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eternalNoob Ded from yer mum Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#56: Oct 23rd 2012 at 1:11:12 AM

Ooh, that's pretty damn co-

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...Well I don't need you, there are millions of Gargoyles videos in youtube...

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BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#57: Oct 23rd 2012 at 1:17:03 AM

Gargoyles is one of my favorite tv shows of all time and easily my favorite cartoon not adapted from something else. I would literally give my right hand to have a continuation series helmed by Wiseman come to the airwaves.

LadyMomus Since: Apr, 2009
#58: Oct 23rd 2012 at 4:05:10 AM

Gargoyles is on Youtube now? Well, there goes my last excuse for not finishing watching the show.

Hey, wait a minute ... They're missing some! I don't any of the Season 3 episodes. *Goes to hide from fans with torches and pitchforks.*

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#59: Oct 23rd 2012 at 4:49:27 AM

[up]No, no, this is GOOD. NOBODY likes season 3. They'd be besieged by angry mobs if they DID release Goliath Chronicles.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
LadyMomus Since: Apr, 2009
#60: Oct 23rd 2012 at 5:13:08 AM

[up] I know that Season 3 is supposed to be bad, but I've never seen it. And I'd feel bad dismissing it as crap if I hadn't even given it a chance.

kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone Since: Feb, 2011
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#61: Oct 23rd 2012 at 6:22:46 AM

[up] Don't even bother with it. It's not canon, anyways.

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
TailsDoll I have a plan. Since: Apr, 2012
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#62: Oct 23rd 2012 at 6:34:08 AM

Greg Weisman himself said that the episode "The Journey" is canon despite being a season three episode, so don't feel bad about watching it.

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blueflame724 Since: May, 2010
#63: Oct 23rd 2012 at 6:42:04 AM

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And then he rectified that statement by rewriting the story in the comics

But honestly, the Goliath Chronicles doesn't even have Narm Charm?

edited 23rd Oct '12 7:02:22 AM by blueflame724

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TiggersAreGreat Since: Mar, 2011
#64: Oct 23rd 2012 at 6:59:56 AM

Whatever may be said above The Goliath Chronicles, I consider the line "DREAM OF ME, GOLIATH! DREAM OF MEEEE!" to be a real gem. Honestly, that line is pure Meme material! evil grin[lol]

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#65: May 16th 2020 at 1:55:44 AM

CBR writes about how both Power Rangers and the OJ Simpson trial played a role in the cancellation of Greg Weisman's Gargoyles.

In an interview with Polygon, series creator Greg Weisman discussed the major event hat led to the show's cancellation: the murder trial of former football star O.J. Simpson. "The OJ Simpson trial meant we were constantly being preempted for trial coverage, because we were on syndicated stations, and syndicated stations still primarily lived off local news in the 1990's," Weisman stated, going on to explain, "Every day it ran, we were being preempted, and in any given city, people were missing episodes of Gargoyles, and falling out of the habit of watching it."

Weisman also said that when the Power Rangers franchise took off, Gargoyles was left in second place. The series creator stated, "That show was a blockbuster. So in season 1, we were the number 1 show in our afternoon slot, and in season 2, we were consistently number 2." He continued, "We weren't a failure, but we'd gone from being a home run to being a double. Power Rangers was the big news and the home run." In the end, according to Weisman, the viewership was "fractured."

Power Rangers and OJ Simpson. You just don't expect to see those names in the same sentence.

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#66: May 16th 2020 at 3:12:07 AM

Unpopular opinion: season 3 isnt great but its not as bad as people make it out to be.

GlitterCat Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#67: May 16th 2020 at 1:30:16 PM

We're gonna get Disney+ next month, so I'll give it a try. I saw a handful of episodes as a kid, but it didn't click for me. The only ep I remember has Brooklyn falling in love with a girl, she is tragically mutated into a gargoyle, and this super scary scientist dies. Just straight up dies on screen and it was terrifying as a kid! I don't expect to be as shocked now but if anyone knows the ep title, please tell me and that's the one I'll start with.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#68: May 16th 2020 at 3:35:55 PM

Unpopular opinion: season 3 isnt great but its not as bad as people make it out to be.

I remember really liking the Hunters storyline in that season. Which is cool, because I also remembering not liking the Hunters bloodline stuff in general, so that's like the one story they had that caught me.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 16th 2020 at 3:39:19 AM

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Groverman62 Since: Feb, 2016
#69: May 16th 2020 at 4:47:24 PM

To be honest I didn't care for the character of John Canmore/Castaway. His turn into a villain felt very forced to me.

I know that he was supposed to be like a reverse Demona, but I can understand why Demona is the way she is. And lot of the flashbacks she that her negative traits have always existed. But with John, he starts out as a nice if kinda wimpy guy who doesn't want to continue his family's dumb legacy, and then he suddenly turns into an evil hate-filled bad guy, even when his reason for becoming so (thinking his brother was killed) turns out to be false

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#70: Jun 4th 2020 at 10:19:55 AM

The Goliath Chronicles version of John Castaway isn't Jon Canmore, though. Or at least he's never stated to be. Season 3's writers seem to either not have realized that they were one and the same, or they made a conscious decision to treat them as separate characters.

In the context of just the Season 2 finale, Jon Canmore's turn to evil makes a degree of sense. It's ultimately not just thinking Jason was dead that drives him into hating gargoyles, it's also his unwillingness to face his own responsibility in crippling Jason.

Edited by DrDougsh on Jun 4th 2020 at 10:20:01 AM

GamerSlyRatchet Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
#71: Jun 4th 2020 at 10:44:59 AM

I also remember someone saying that John's initial reluctance in avoiding conflict with the gargoyles wasn't so much kindness as it was cowardice, the same cowardice that would make him unable to take responsibility for his actions.

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GamerSlyRatchet Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
#72: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:44:01 AM

Apparently, the Cinestory that Joe Books almost put out before getting cancelled was almost a brand new comic book series by Greg Weisman and Christopher Jones.

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#73: Jan 21st 2021 at 1:34:21 PM

The Avalon World Tour did way more damage to the series than I think gets talked about. Almost half the episodes of the entire series are that arc, and it's so full of sequel hooks and pilot bait that it gets hard to even remember what show you're watching.

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#74: Jan 22nd 2021 at 4:20:56 PM

[up] I really liked some of that arc; it did go on way too long, though.

BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#75: Jan 23rd 2021 at 12:40:24 AM

It should have been cut in half, probably more, since it sidelined half the main cast.


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