Discussion of religion in the context of LGBTQ+ rights is only allowed in this thread.
Discussion of religion in any other context is off topic in all of the "LGBTQ+ rights..." threads.
Attempting to bait others into bringing up religion is also not allowed.
Edited by Mrph1 on Dec 1st 2023 at 6:52:14 PM
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Again, not surprised at all. I bet if you check LGBT individuals by location, you'll tend to find them in high concentrations where there are high concentrations of religious individuals overall and vice versa for areas that are more secular.
Impossible Gender Forge
GASP!
We should inform the Republican Party that religion causes Homosexuality.
Wait.
Send an email. The head explosions would be messy.
One of the follow up tables hints in this direction.
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edited 27th Jun '13 10:05:15 AM by blauregen
All I know is, my gut says maybe.
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I'm Christian and I'm not L, G, B, or T. Ah, yes, I'm not a true Christian.
edited 27th Jun '13 10:09:22 AM by TheStarshipMaxima
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Repent. Get a boyfriend. 
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So....blauregen, what are you up to later? 
scratching at .8, just hopin'
TSM: just to clarify, you've no issue with a "Stupid Christianz for the Stupidz" viewpoint as long as it's coming from a "humanity is stupidz by default" position, right?
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Decoy
Xenophobic gay Christian homophobe fits likely the leader of a major right wing party in Poland called Law and Justice. He lives alone with his male cat. Either gay or asexual. Yet preaches about defence of family values, the hypocrite.
edited 27th Jun '13 12:31:33 PM by CaptainKatsura
My President is Funny Valentine.
Well, he probably makes a saving on the bed of nails going for the repressive self-flagalation and personal suppression via public oppression, at any rate. <shivers>
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Exactly.
Or even more to the point, more like "Some Christians rule, some drool, but many tend to be really fervent either way."
In other news; some believe churches that refuse to condone same-sex marriages could lose non-profit status.
I say, so be it. It's time for the Church to make a stand and look the liberal agenda in the eye and say "Well, we're not moving. So....do what you have to."
edited 27th Jun '13 1:05:29 PM by TheStarshipMaxima
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And, some are "the Liberal Agenda" (is that a thing?).
You have to admit, some Churches are better at the "love they neighbour" thing than others. 
Cleric of Banjo
How could churches possibly lose nonprofit status for refusing to support/perform gay marriages?
Really the only thing that could take away that status might be some political activities done in reaction to the decision, but that's a toothless standard anyway- many churches are very openly political (in either direction) and in no danger of losing their nonprofit status.
Edit, edit, edit, edit the wiki
hey, hey, Its not a liberal agenda. Its just our secret plan to kill all human-er...uh...*cough(
He Who Got Gud
I kneeeewwwww it
scratching at .8, just hopin'
Oh ffs. "We'll have to pay more taxes! This is the end of the world!"
If I was in charge of determining which religious institutions in the U.S. got tax-exempt status we'd have paid our deficit off two years ago.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
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Liberals are way too up in the clouds to ever be a serious threat to all human life. Of course, then there's this to consider.
This. Fucking this.
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He Who Got Gud
I think the issue is, or should, be more like this: What if the government decides that Churches that preach "Racism is bad!" should lose tax except status? It probably will never happen, but it's the princible of the thing.
At what point does the government get to decide what the churches can and can't preach?
edited 27th Jun '13 1:17:56 PM by Ringsea
The most edgy person on the Internet.
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Well put Ringsea.
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Decoy
All churches should lose tax exception, by the way.
edited 27th Jun '13 1:23:55 PM by CaptainKatsura
My President is Funny Valentine.
I agree that Churches should have to pay taxes but I'd prefer religiously funded charities did not.
@Starship: Is a Christian allowed to use "up in the clouds" as an insult?
edited 27th Jun '13 7:22:43 PM by Wildcard
You could of course just have churches pay taxes like any other civilized country.
Bar those that have an official state religion. Which you guys should get, because there's no faster way to make more atheists than by having a state religion.
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
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(Shrug) My sins are forgiven.
edited 27th Jun '13 1:40:04 PM by TheStarshipMaxima
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@Ringsea
at the point where they get government funding and tax exemptions other politically motivated organizations dont?
edited 27th Jun '13 1:43:30 PM by midgetsnowman
He Who Got Gud
I take it you don't like the church.
edited 27th Jun '13 1:42:57 PM by Ringsea
The most edgy person on the Internet.
According to this
, there are a lot of LGBT christians in the USA at least.
edited 27th Jun '13 9:48:46 AM by blauregen
All I know is, my gut says maybe.