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Discussion of religion in the context of LGBTQ+ rights is only allowed in this thread.

Discussion of religion in any other context is off topic in all of the "LGBTQ+ rights..." threads.

Attempting to bait others into bringing up religion is also not allowed.

Edited by Mrph1 on Dec 1st 2023 at 6:52:14 PM

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#12076: Jun 14th 2013 at 8:37:31 AM

Ok, how about "a nation under zero or more gods"

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#12077: Jun 14th 2013 at 8:38:24 AM

Kinda ruins the flow don't you think?

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#12078: Jun 14th 2013 at 8:42:48 AM

Ok, how about "one nation under the first deity to unambiguously demonstrate his or her existence"

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#12079: Jun 14th 2013 at 8:46:42 AM

One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all*. *including atheists

edited 14th Jun '13 8:47:47 AM by Xopher001

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#12080: Jun 14th 2013 at 8:47:10 AM

[up][up]No what about the next one?tongue If Jesus came down and then Thor it wouldn't work.

Seriously though, "One Nation, Indivisible" works.

edited 14th Jun '13 8:47:28 AM by Wildcard

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#12081: Jun 14th 2013 at 8:57:08 AM

The point was it would be a race. First god to show themselves gets a nation. That ought to motivate the lazy buggers.

optimusjamie Since: Jun, 2010
#12082: Jun 14th 2013 at 9:45:40 AM

[up]Guess I'll have to get working then.

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AnSTH Lawful Evil Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#12083: Jun 14th 2013 at 9:51:47 AM

At this point I'm having more problems with the "indivisible" part of the pledge than the "under God." The only thing that can destroy America at this point is the American people. And they'll do it because they think other Americans aren't being American enough.

But that's a story for another time.
Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#12084: Jun 14th 2013 at 10:53:39 AM

I have an issue with "liberty and justice for all". Since we don't have it and never have.

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#12085: Jun 14th 2013 at 10:57:10 AM

I think the point of that part is that it's what Americans should strive for.

AnSTH Lawful Evil Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#12086: Jun 14th 2013 at 11:28:18 AM

[up] Too bad we're not doing much of that either.

But that's a story for another time.
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#12087: Jun 14th 2013 at 2:05:54 PM

One: we have a thread for this.

Two: The country's motto is E Pluribus Unum: Out of Many, One. I still say that "one country, out of many, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all" is the best take on it I've heard.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Muramasan13 Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#12088: Jun 15th 2013 at 11:27:29 AM

Correction: the US's motto used to be "E Pluribus Unum". It was replaced in the last century by "One Nation Under God" during a fit of religious fervor. Nobody bothered to take the old motto off the currency, though.

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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#12089: Jun 15th 2013 at 12:17:16 PM

Correction: the US's motto used to be "E Pluribus Unum". It was replaced in the last century by "One Nation Under God" during a fit of religious fervor. Nobody bothered to take the old motto off the currency, though.

The motto of the USA is "In God We Trust", which first appeared on coins in 1864 and was adopted in 1956 by Eisenhower. A variation of the phrase as a motto appears in the Star Spangled Banner, written in 1814: "And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.'" E Pluribus Unum is, and has been since 1782, the motto of the seal of the USA, which is why it appears on currency today.

"Under God" was inserted into the pledge of allegiance in '54, changing "one nation indivisible", to "one nation under God, indivisible."

edited 15th Jun '13 12:18:04 PM by Achaemenid

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Muramasan13 Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#12090: Jun 15th 2013 at 1:09:56 PM

We regret that our previous correction of inaccuracy was itself inaccurate. It has subsequently been emended by a third party; we apologize for the inconvenience while the emendation was being emended. smile

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CaptainKatsura Decoy from    Poland    Since: Jul, 2011
Decoy
#12091: Jun 15th 2013 at 1:18:21 PM

  • amended

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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#12092: Jun 15th 2013 at 2:05:10 PM

[up]

I'm afraid not. "Emend" means to improve a text by critical editing. "Amend" simply means to alter something for the better. Two distinct words.

Schild und Schwert der Partei
Muramasan13 Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#12093: Jun 15th 2013 at 8:18:20 PM

To recap, my apologetic statement on the topic of my previous correction's meta-correction received a correction, which was then promptly corrected itself.

Yay! smile

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CaptainKatsura Decoy from    Poland    Since: Jul, 2011
Decoy
#12094: Jun 16th 2013 at 7:49:08 AM

Weirdly, I have never seen that word in any context whatsover.

My President is Funny Valentine.
TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
NCC - 1701
#12095: Jun 17th 2013 at 8:41:24 AM

More like "I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that discrimination is going on today in Christian churches! This completely goes against the teachings of the Bible (debatable), and the Real True Christians are behind you 100%. Insert Star Trek reference."

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Well played Mr. Morg, well played indeed.

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Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#12096: Jun 17th 2013 at 8:52:35 AM

*takes a bow* I'll be here all week.

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#12097: Jun 17th 2013 at 8:54:38 AM

Are their some denominations of Christianity which allow same sex marriage in the Churches?

lonesomepaire from nowhere,wyoming Since: Apr, 2013
#12098: Jun 17th 2013 at 8:58:09 AM

I can't think of any specific denomination, but there are some individual churches that do.

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#12099: Jun 17th 2013 at 8:58:49 AM

I mean a denomination where the majority of Churches let gay couples marry.


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