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Tyyrlym Jerk from Normandy SR-2 Since: Mar, 2011
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#76: Mar 22nd 2012 at 11:51:43 AM

But the biggest problem with all the outcry is that (spoilers ahead) the ending of Mass Effect 3 is fascinating, frustrating, moving, and weird — exactly the kind of ending that the videogame medium will need more of if it intends to mature.
What? How does incomprehensible, illogical, inconsistent, and incoherent equal mature?

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CPFMfan I am serious. This is my serious face. from A Whale's Vagina Since: Aug, 2010
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#77: Mar 22nd 2012 at 11:52:09 AM

the ending of Mass Effect 3 is fascinating, frustrating, moving, and weird

Well they're half right.

edited 22nd Mar '12 11:52:17 AM by CPFMfan

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Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
That One Guy
#78: Mar 22nd 2012 at 11:53:18 AM

It is fascinating, though, considering how different it manages to be from the entire franchise. It also moved many people to take action.

edited 22nd Mar '12 11:53:33 AM by Firebert

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#79: Mar 22nd 2012 at 11:54:42 AM

[up][up][up][up] The difference is that ME, in most peoples' minds, destroyed the entire series from beginning to end by rendering every accomplishment they did utterly pointless.

People don't have a personal attachment to features. They do, however, have a personal attachment to characters, and the ending systematically screws over each and every one of them.

edited 22nd Mar '12 11:54:53 AM by KingZeal

Anfauglith Lord of Castamere Since: Dec, 2011
Lord of Castamere
#80: Mar 22nd 2012 at 11:55:52 AM

It's a heresy to say that videogames are not a mature medium and that it needs more Mass Effect endings in order to get better. With so many different games out there...ugh.

Instead, I have learned a horrible truth of existence...some stories have no meaning.
Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
That One Guy
#81: Mar 22nd 2012 at 11:56:53 AM

I still find it hilarious that that guy said changing the endings would be like changing the Mona Lisa. [lol]

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ImAbove Over you from England Since: Jan, 2012
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#82: Mar 22nd 2012 at 11:57:23 AM

Thought I'd share this

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Frosplosion Fro-ed Wonder from Palm Bay, FL Since: Nov, 2011
Fro-ed Wonder
#83: Mar 22nd 2012 at 11:58:48 AM

[up][up][up][up] Okay, that is something I can understand. It's not the fact that things weren't in that were promised, that people feel that the bounds they formed with the characters in the game have been negated by the ending. Alright.

Still, a part of me can't help but feel this is a teeny tiny bit over the top, but at least not I can see where people are coming from. So long there aren't riots in the street, I can support the movement existing without really becoming a part of it. Because I'm a sideline kind of guy.

[up][up] I kinda think he was making fun of people's reactions by saying they were acting like someone was trying to change the Mona Lisa. But that's just my take.

edited 22nd Mar '12 12:00:13 PM by Frosplosion

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Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
That One Guy
#85: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:01:36 PM

[up][up] Judging by the rest of his Twitter, I'd say he fully believes it. This is the same guy who said it set the gaming industry back ten years.

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Frosplosion Fro-ed Wonder from Palm Bay, FL Since: Nov, 2011
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#86: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:04:35 PM

I never can tell when Bob is being serious or not...eh, not gonna try to defend him when I don't really read his Twitter.

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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#87: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:06:38 PM

I already explained why the ending doesn't work in my article.

It has NOTHING TO DO with the content of the endings.

This picture says 1000 words.

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#88: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:08:39 PM

...would now be a good time to admit that I favor Liara/Javik, too? C'mon, even Tali ships them! Sure, she's drunk at the time, but that doesn't mean she's lying...

...also, because this has been grating at me ever since I read it, but...

Somewhere, in the past few days, I read someone posting this in an effort to, I dunno, make the ending seem like less of an Inferred Holocaust, I guess. (It's paraphrased, of course, since I can't find the exact quote)

"Besides, other science fiction franchises have featured months-long space travel."

And that just makes me want to crack my head against the desk. Why?

1. Mass Effect isn't one of those "other science fiction franchises." Weak, I know, but then you have the fact that...

2. Those other science fiction franchises don't feature ships that have to discharge their drive cores into a planet's surface/magnetic field every couple of days in order to ensure that the crew doesn't die a horrible death. So says the Mass Effect Wiki.

FTL Drive: Drive Charge

As positive or negative electric current is passed through an FTL drive core, it acquires a static electrical charge. '''Drives can be operated an average of 50 hours before they reach charge saturation. This changes proportionally to the magnitude of mass reduction; a heavier or faster ship reaches saturation more quickly.

If the charge is allowed to build, the core will discharge into the hull of a ship. All ungrounded crew members are fried to a crisp, all electronic system are burned out, and metal bulkheads may be melted and fused together.

The safest way to discharge a core is to land on a planet and establish a connection to the ground, like a lightning rod. Larger vessels like dreadnoughts cannot land and must discharge into a planetary magnetic field.'''

As the hull discharges, sheets of lightning jump away into the field, creating beautiful auroral displays on the planet. The ship must retract its sensors and weapons while dumping charge to prevent damage, leaving it blind and helpless. Discharging at a moon with a weak magnetic field can take days. Discharging into the powerful field of a gas giant may require less than an hour. Deep space facilities such as the Citadel often have special discharge facilities for visiting ships.

It's also mentioned on the wiki's "FTL" page.

Simply put: If there are no planets within at least 50 hours of a given ship's location, the crew is screwed. (And that's assuming that they're starting fresh, and weren't approaching the saturation point when they were stranded out in the cosmic boondocks.)

People can try to gloss it over or pretty it up all they like, but the simple fact is, by destroying the relays, you destroy galactic civilization on a level that the Reapers never could. And that's supposed to be "triumphant" and "satisfying?"

/end rant

Anfauglith Lord of Castamere Since: Dec, 2011
Lord of Castamere
#89: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:08:42 PM

[up][up]

It still has the problem regarding Galactic Readiness mixed up with Effective Military Strength. Galactic Readiness is just a multiplier for EMS, and it doesn't affect the endings. The number that is checked in order to see what ending you get is the EMS one.

edited 22nd Mar '12 12:08:52 PM by Anfauglith

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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#90: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:10:14 PM

Don't care. The point still stands.

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Anfauglith Lord of Castamere Since: Dec, 2011
Lord of Castamere
#91: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:11:02 PM

Ah okay. Was just trying to help. Nevermind.

edited 22nd Mar '12 12:11:11 PM by Anfauglith

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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#93: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:13:40 PM

10,000 years later, maybe they've unfucked everything and have achieved a new kind of FTL travel.

Jonah Falcon
Frosplosion Fro-ed Wonder from Palm Bay, FL Since: Nov, 2011
Fro-ed Wonder
#94: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:16:09 PM

Where the heck is all this information even from?

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Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
That One Guy
#95: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:16:44 PM

It's an obvious troll, asari always produce asari.

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Frosplosion Fro-ed Wonder from Palm Bay, FL Since: Nov, 2011
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#96: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:18:25 PM

They jerked the fan base around with the ending. What's the stop them from throwing in a genetic impossibility as a final middle finger to everyone?

"I know where I am, I just don't know where I am in where I am." - Me
SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#97: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:18:26 PM

^^Note that it says "MAYBE". Maybe somebody remembered "Wait, asari don't work like that" or they just decided it was stupid, in final version they are just silhouettes after all.

Also its text file from game made by Gibbed, the guy who did save file editor for ME 2 & 3.

Also note that link that post links to is FRICKING huge, if that is fake then somebody had too much free time.

edited 22nd Mar '12 12:19:47 PM by SpookyMask

fakeangelbr The Awesomest Character from Fortaleza, Brazil Since: Jan, 2010
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#98: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:20:24 PM

You would be surprised.

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Anfauglith Lord of Castamere Since: Dec, 2011
Lord of Castamere
#99: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:20:37 PM

I doubt it's fake. Gibbed is quite trustworthy. He's the one who made the savegame editors.

1: Shepard and Tali walk into conference room.

2: Shrugs, still walking.

3: Pauses to look over shoulder at room behind her.

4: Stops, face to face with Shepard in conference room.

5: Turns and starts to leave. Then pauses, looks back over shoulder.

6: Walks away after line, extra hips!

7: Still walking.

8: Still walking.

9: Still walking.

10: Disapproves. Thinks Tali deserves better.

11: With a smile, flirt on Miss Vas Normandy.

Extra hips evil grin

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Frosplosion Fro-ed Wonder from Palm Bay, FL Since: Nov, 2011
Fro-ed Wonder
#100: Mar 22nd 2012 at 12:22:08 PM

Ehh...take it with a grain of salt I guess? But honestly, does knowing this make things any "worse"?

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