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Pryun Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#376: Aug 25th 2012 at 8:59:46 AM

ah, you won't get to see him in lone wolf mode for long.

on another note, this week's SAO was hilarious. Especially the way Asuna pulls kirito away......

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#377: Aug 25th 2012 at 9:27:06 AM

Episode 7: Romance on a whim shattered. Aww.

That's all I can say about it, really.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#378: Aug 25th 2012 at 10:00:23 AM

Episode 8: Huh, adding their own stuff. Some of which is probably good, some of which contradicts GAME MECHANICS and makes me want to throttle someone. If you're not gonna respect basic game mechanics why bother making the anime?

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#379: Aug 25th 2012 at 10:09:43 AM

My usual sites don't have it yet, but mind telling me what they got wrong?

Also, saying that implies that they're even mandated to stay accurate to the story. I can't even count all of the terrible In Name Only adaptations I've seen, Mayoi Neko Overrun being the worst by far, not even holding a consistent setting or plot throughout due to giving the series a new director every episode and letting them do whatever, including making it a mecha show for one episode.

Be happy it's even this accurate.

edited 25th Aug '12 10:16:21 AM by burnpsy

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#380: Aug 25th 2012 at 10:33:00 AM

I don't care about accuracy to the story, or even accuracy to the mechanics as described in the novels, although I'd certainly prefer if they're self-consistent. I care about accuracy to the spirit of games. Real games. I'm a gamer first and foremost, so the idea of them not respecting games rubs me the wrong way, especially given how clear it is that the author is a gamer writing about what he loves.

Specifically: Asuna interfering with the duel. I don't care about Kuradeel coming back with a dagger, although that wasn't in the novel, but you can't get in the way of someone else's duel. It's more important than sacred, it's hard-coded into the game systems. What's the point of declaring a duel at all other than to remove system protection between players? While it's theoretically possible to exploit collision mechanics or visual effects to annoy someone in a duel, stepping in and parrying their weapon directly strikes me as the greatest insult to game mechanics imaginable. And Kirito even won the duel after all that. What's the world coming to when game mechanics allow blatant cheating like that?

edited 25th Aug '12 10:34:30 AM by Clarste

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#381: Aug 25th 2012 at 10:37:27 AM

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What is the anime staff doing?

Evidently not a good job, that's for sure.

edited 25th Aug '12 10:37:49 AM by burnpsy

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#382: Aug 25th 2012 at 10:59:36 AM

...I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#383: Aug 25th 2012 at 11:07:27 AM

It's not.

This is one of those basic things that teeters into Did Not Do The Research, which is one of my minor Berserk Buttons.

edited 25th Aug '12 11:08:41 AM by burnpsy

Fabelyn Since: Sep, 2011
#384: Aug 25th 2012 at 1:28:29 PM

I didn't understand why Asuna said it was all her fault for being too strict and Kirito replied she should be allowed a day off. From what I understood, the guy following Asuna around wasn't bothered that she was getting a day off, but that she was walking around with a 'dirty beater' while disregarding his protection. Why would this be due to strict training? Unless, of course, she goes around her guild ordering people not to walk with suspicious people? But then Kirito's answer doesn't make sense...

edited 25th Aug '12 1:31:06 PM by Fabelyn

stardf29 Since: Jan, 2001
#385: Aug 25th 2012 at 1:35:24 PM

[up] x5: The thing is, I haven't read any of the light novels, and even I found it off that Asuna was able to intervene in the duel. Forget violating the game mechanics of this specific setting; that just violates game mechanics, period.

I did like the episode apart from that, though, especially with how people are starting to treat the game like it really is their life. (Perhaps making the game impossible to log out of until it's beaten and death being, well, real death is having that effect on everyone?)

MurkyMuse Magical Girl Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Magical Girl
#386: Aug 25th 2012 at 1:36:07 PM

Ignoring a few details, I really enjoyed that episode. Asuna is a graceful fighter.

[up][up]I seem to remember it made more sense when I read it in the light novels. I think the wording got changed around.

edited 25th Aug '12 1:36:19 PM by MurkyMuse

People are mirrors. If you smile, a smile will be reflected.
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#387: Aug 25th 2012 at 1:36:48 PM

I think she just thinks that she created a certain oppressive atmosphere in the guild. Not like a specific order she gave or anything, she just didn't treat them in a friendly manner so like they don't act like friends. It's supposed to be a callback to how she acted towards Kirito in episode 5.

MurkyMuse Magical Girl Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Magical Girl
#388: Aug 25th 2012 at 1:39:36 PM

Of course, Kuradeel is just a stalker. That's certainly not Asuna's fault.

People are mirrors. If you smile, a smile will be reflected.
HinanawiTenshi Final Boss from Heaven, Above Gensokyo Since: Jul, 2010
#389: Aug 25th 2012 at 2:50:11 PM

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Kirito killed a bunny.

:<

I'm more pissed at Kayaba for programming the game like that, but still, am twitching so hard.

ANYWAY THOUGH.

Other stuff.

This whole time, I thought that Asuna was wearing a chestplate. But according to Kirito's hands, its just a shirt that looks like a chestplate.

Dat duel cheating.

What's the world coming to when game mechanics allow blatant cheating like that?

I've seen more than enough glitches in MM Os, though I guess that the kind of person who made SAO would allow as little of that as possible.

So what of this stuff was anime-original anyway?

Being at the Heavens, control the land. Being at the Earth, remove its keystones. And lay bare the scarlet hearts of man!
Ruthek from Someplace Rainy Since: Dec, 2009
#390: Aug 25th 2012 at 3:04:44 PM

Asuna is wearing a chestplate. It got pushed up when she fell,and Kirito's hand is underneath it when he grabs her boob.

And as far as I can remember, only Asuna interrupting the duel and maybe the Laughing Coffin guy were anime originals. Not positive on that though.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#391: Aug 25th 2012 at 3:06:14 PM

If you look closely, her chestplate is falling of her chest because it doesn't seem to be fastened anywhere but the top. So it's swinging down away from her and Kirito's hands go underneath it. ...maybe I paid too much attention to this scene.

Off the top of my head, the only anime additions were having Kuradeel come back with a knife instead of giving up after his sword broke, Asuna parrying the knife (why?!), and Laughing Coffin guy being in the audience.

Silentedge89 Optimistic Cynic Since: Apr, 2012
Optimistic Cynic
#392: Aug 25th 2012 at 3:23:17 PM

Was the duel still on or did it officially conclude after Kirito broke his sword? From what I saw the duel ended allowing for interference again. Not sure if there's a "rounds" system inherent to the duels but it seemed like it was finished and when Kirito said he could come at him again with another sword he meant to start another duel or another and another until Kuradeel was satisfied.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#393: Aug 25th 2012 at 3:28:56 PM

It didn't end until Kuradeel teleported away. That when the "Kirito Wins" message was shown anyway. I suppose it might have ended earlier, but there was no indication of it. According to the rules of the duel, it ends when someone gets a clean hit on the opponent, and I don't think breaking the sword would count since that's essentially Kuradeel parrying very badly. In the novel Kuradeel manually resigned after his sword broke, although admittedly it might work differently in the anime. Kirito's taunt was a "you can keep trying, but I don't think you'll do better so you should just give up and end the duel."

And if the duel was already over, attacking Kirito with a knife would make even less sense.

Thinking about it more, we've already seen the way system protection works on players back in episode 6 when Kirito threw his needles at the cloaked guy. They bounced off several centimeters away from the player, before it even hit the armor. Logically, that's what should have happened to Asuna's sword.

edited 25th Aug '12 3:31:08 PM by Clarste

Silentedge89 Optimistic Cynic Since: Apr, 2012
Optimistic Cynic
#394: Aug 25th 2012 at 3:48:37 PM

In any case next week is Kirito's reveal of his dual blade skill. Looking forward to that.

I wonder if they intend to animated chapter 16.5...

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#395: Aug 25th 2012 at 4:49:15 PM

Now that I've finally gotten a chance to watch the episode... Yeah, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and they're being as utterly stupid as Accel World was with Full Physical Burst and a few other things. As I said back during the episode 2 discussion, it looks like thus writer's just plain unlucky when it comes to getting people to animate his works properly.note 

With this episode, there are only two characters in the opening that haven't appeared yet. I assume those are their daughter and Heathcliff, correct?

Nachia Since: Aug, 2012
#396: Aug 25th 2012 at 11:44:23 PM

I agree with the duel part. Asuna really didn't need to intervene, especially since Cradil/Kuradeel was fairly obvious with his attack. Did it occur to anyone else that the manner violation prevention code would intervene when Kirito was grabbing Asuna? :/ Yeah, it follows the LN, but I feel that was kind of a fanservicey thing more than anything.

I hope I'm not the only one who cared about Asuna's knife spin. Basically the same as pen/baton spinning, but the balance... meh. It's a game world and physics is messed up.

Pryun Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#397: Sep 1st 2012 at 8:59:23 AM

That fight scene! Starburst Stream! Dual wielding!

Asuna's relief! Klein being bro....

Alright! anyone got any complaints about THIS episode?

edited 1st Sep '12 8:50:57 PM by Pryun

Silentedge89 Optimistic Cynic Since: Apr, 2012
Optimistic Cynic
#398: Sep 1st 2012 at 9:51:04 AM

T_T its still RAW for me. Y U NO sub SAO N Wanime?

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#399: Sep 1st 2012 at 9:52:38 AM

Wait, you guys even have the RAW right now? :/

Silentedge89 Optimistic Cynic Since: Apr, 2012
Optimistic Cynic
#400: Sep 1st 2012 at 10:05:23 AM

Yeah. N Wanime has the raw right now.


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