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Lightflame Stick of the Fallen from where you can't find me Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Drowning in your pond, hoping you'll notice me
Stick of the Fallen
#1: Feb 29th 2012 at 10:57:51 AM

Alright, so I took the time to make this image, which definitely shows us the trope. And the character in question is a major example. Also, all the usernames were edited except for "Admin". But I'm worthless at cropping, and the image has too much to upload or something. I have it here. Would somebody crop it for me, if they were kind enough?

By the way, it's from Warrior Cats, and that's an image of the Warriors Official Forum edited with Google Chrome.

..............Although I'm not sure if an image would be allowed for this page.

"Oh great! Let's pile up all the useless cats and hope a tree falls on them!"
ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
someone
#2: Feb 29th 2012 at 11:03:01 AM

It's pretty much entirely text. I don't see how that would help very much as a page image, honestly.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#3: Feb 29th 2012 at 11:07:59 AM

I cropped it way down, but I think it might work if we include the last one — "Post here if you're neutral" with 0 replies...

edited 29th Feb '12 11:09:09 AM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#4: Feb 29th 2012 at 11:11:31 AM

Or with one more column cropped off, to make it a little more legible at max width

edited 29th Feb '12 11:12:00 AM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Gentleman Troper!
#5: Feb 29th 2012 at 11:40:01 AM

I like it.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
TARDISES pirate girl Since: May, 2011
pirate girl
#6: Feb 29th 2012 at 11:43:37 AM

How about turning to the Sonic fanbase? Seriously, Sonic's mere DESIGN is a Base Breaker (there are people who prefer classic Sonic.)

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#7: Feb 29th 2012 at 11:44:36 AM

You'll need an image, not just "Sonic fanbase".

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TARDISES pirate girl Since: May, 2011
pirate girl
#8: Feb 29th 2012 at 11:45:35 AM

I was just suggesting a general idea... as part of the discussion.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#9: Feb 29th 2012 at 12:22:47 PM

Ok, the reason that the page currently has no image and a note not to put one up is that the images we tried caused edit wars, between the people who said "This character is a base breaker." and the people who said, "Nuh-uh, he's not." Using any character will cause the same thing again.

But there's a second reason, and that's that it's an audience reaction, not the character themselves, really; and that forum thread list shows it pretty well — the threads stating that the same character is both the Most Loved and Most Hated character are busy, while the one for "Post here if you're neutral on him" is dead in the water.

edited 29th Feb '12 12:23:27 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#10: Feb 29th 2012 at 12:36:54 PM

I really like the "forum screencap" pic.

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#11: Feb 29th 2012 at 12:45:33 PM

I like it too. I think it's probably the only way to show a trope like this.

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Lightflame Stick of the Fallen from where you can't find me Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Drowning in your pond, hoping you'll notice me
Stick of the Fallen
#12: Feb 29th 2012 at 2:06:42 PM

Thanks, Madrugada! That's a big help.

I'm glad my image is getting this much support.

"Oh great! Let's pile up all the useless cats and hope a tree falls on them!"
HiddenFacedMatt Avatars may be subject to change without notice. Since: Jul, 2011
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#13: Feb 29th 2012 at 2:33:12 PM

Ok, the reason that the page currently has no image and a note not to put one up is that the images we tried caused edit wars, between the people who said "This character is a base breaker." and the people who said, "Nuh-uh, he's not." Using any character will cause the same thing again.
Odd. Discussions of images for Base Breaker... are a base breaker. o.o

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Jicragg Since: Jun, 2010
#14: Feb 29th 2012 at 2:36:02 PM

Good suggestion.

I made another crop of it, because I'm having trouble reading the versions on posts three and four... but I have eye trouble so maybe it's just me.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#15: Feb 29th 2012 at 2:49:24 PM

I'd prefer changing the colors so that the titles aren't made harder to make out.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#16: Feb 29th 2012 at 2:50:09 PM

That's less fuzzed, but the white on blue is still not easy to read.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Jicragg Since: Jun, 2010
#17: Feb 29th 2012 at 2:56:48 PM

What's the best colour to change it to? Dark grey is rather dull.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#18: Feb 29th 2012 at 3:08:28 PM

Well, a big chunk of it is that the white letters are fuzzed with the background color, I suspect as an artifact of the re-sizing. I tried changing the blue to other colors and got the same thing — only the fuzzing was green or grey or whatever instead of blue. I'm not sure how to clean that up.sad

edited 29th Feb '12 3:09:40 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#19: Feb 29th 2012 at 3:10:08 PM

Light text on a dark background in general is kind of hard to read. Same colors but more contrast maybe? Also save as PNG instead of JPG for lossless (not lossy) compression, no additional compression artifacts. (A lossless original would mean none at all.)

edited 29th Feb '12 3:11:41 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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Jicragg Since: Jun, 2010
#20: Feb 29th 2012 at 3:17:50 PM

Turning up the saturation just turns the text blue instead and I've saved it as a .jpg. It's too late to turn back now.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#21: Feb 29th 2012 at 3:24:15 PM

Saturation?! :)

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#23: Feb 29th 2012 at 3:30:48 PM

I meant, "increase contrast" doesn't mean "increase saturation". Browsing on a laptop without an image editing app, sorry. If using Photoshop the command is Adjustments>Image>Brightness/Contrast. (A>I>Curves is preferable but hard to explain how to use.)

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Jicragg Since: Jun, 2010
#24: Feb 29th 2012 at 3:38:45 PM

[up]I know how they work (darkrooms are more fun though). Issue is that just a little tweek makes it either very fuzzy or very painful.

This is the best I could do.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#25: Feb 29th 2012 at 3:47:40 PM

Better? I saved it as a .jpg, and did a flood fill with the background color, with the tolerance cranked up

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

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