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Tuomas Since: Mar, 2010
#1: Feb 14th 2012 at 12:28:17 AM

The image used to illustrate this page is huge spoiler for Superman Red Son. It's essentially the climax point of the whole series. I know any pic used to illustrate a trope like this is probably gonna spoil something, but it'd be nicer if the image at least wasn't from the finale of a work. Any suggestions for an alternative?

edited 14th Feb '12 12:28:35 AM by Tuomas

KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#2: Feb 14th 2012 at 12:34:47 AM

If it's a spoiler then pull it asap. I'd do it but I'm on mobile.

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#3: Feb 14th 2012 at 1:54:22 AM

Pulled it.

Are there any suggestions, or is this better left blank? I can't really think of anything that's much more than simple text.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#4: Feb 14th 2012 at 2:32:51 AM

For reference, here's the pulled image:

Suggesting these. It's not much of a spoiler. Though, I couldn't crop out the right part of the bottom image. Maybe someone else can do it better.

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Jicragg Since: Jun, 2010
#5: Feb 14th 2012 at 4:26:43 AM

I like the first one (the manga one, that is). It's the reaction that sells it to me. The second page doesn't seem necessary, just the question and the eye shots.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#6: Feb 14th 2012 at 4:29:11 AM

Yeah, the top image is the one pulled. Didn't want to doublepost, is all.

I thought putting together both the manga images illustrates the reaction better, but I guess only the first works too.

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#7: Feb 14th 2012 at 4:35:46 AM

Lets see This? [1][2][3]

Attempted cut out panels.

optional panel

edited 14th Feb '12 4:41:52 AM by Raso

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#8: Feb 14th 2012 at 4:39:20 AM

I like Yue's verbal smackdown. The funny part comes after, though, when she feels like a bully.

The manga above in #4 just isn't as clear to me.

edited 14th Feb '12 4:39:37 AM by Feather7603

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#9: Feb 14th 2012 at 5:12:57 AM

The Negima ones seem a bit too dialogue-heavy.

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Tuomas Since: Mar, 2010
#10: Feb 14th 2012 at 5:44:30 AM

Yeah, an ideal pic should emphasize the question itself and not have much other dialogue.

The series of manga panels in #4 is too long, but I think you could just use the first three panels (the question panel and the two eye panels) to get the message across. They show the question and the obvious dramatic reaction it causes, I don't think anything else is needed.

Tuomas Since: Mar, 2010
#11: Feb 14th 2012 at 5:46:57 AM

Also, using just the three panels doesn't require reading the dialogue from right to left, which is confusing to many people (myself included) not very familiar with manga.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#12: Feb 14th 2012 at 8:18:30 AM

The manga pictures in post 4 are two different images. The top image includes the question and the eyes, while the bottom has the panel where he's screaming.

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AlexisPius Since: Feb, 2012
#13: Feb 21st 2012 at 12:56:38 AM

It seems like this trope, by its very nature, involves twists. But there might be a way around it.

Can someone post the original Superman image? If I'm correct, then it should be possible to crop out the panel with the note. In other words, I think showing a panel with Superman collapsed, holding a note would be sufficient to demonstrate the article.

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#14: Feb 21st 2012 at 1:06:02 AM

I just don't see the armour piercing part of #4. It doesn't make sense to me, which makes it completely useless.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#15: Feb 21st 2012 at 1:12:43 AM

[up][up] The original image is on the top of post 4.

[up] He asks a question, the other guy starts screaming. I'd say it's pretty armour piercing. Especially since the one screaming is The Stoic.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#16: Feb 21st 2012 at 1:14:09 AM

^^^ It might, but Superman is not holding the note.

edited 22nd Feb '12 2:14:16 AM by rodneyAnonymous

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#17: Feb 21st 2012 at 6:51:17 AM

[up][up] I wouldn't know he's The Stoic from that, and he mostly just seems insane screaming like that. I also don't see how that question would have much of an effect.

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AlexisPius Since: Feb, 2012
#18: Feb 21st 2012 at 11:31:16 AM

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edited 21st Feb '12 11:31:23 AM by AlexisPius

Jicragg Since: Jun, 2010
#19: Feb 21st 2012 at 12:27:04 PM

[up][up]Yes, I don't know anything about the series either so the screaming is... odd. That's why I felt the eye opening panels worked - it gives across the impression that the person is shocked and implies a big impact. Personally, that's enough for me to under what the trope means.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#20: Feb 22nd 2012 at 11:12:26 AM

Okay, here's a couple more:

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#21: Feb 22nd 2012 at 11:30:50 AM

Those look good. smile

Also, how was the previous image a spoiler? I am curious. smile

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#22: Feb 22nd 2012 at 12:57:09 PM

The second one's a little better than the first, but I'd un-stagger the panels.

Tuomas Since: Mar, 2010
#23: Feb 23rd 2012 at 2:34:30 AM

I dunno, to me the pics in #20 look more like the kid is confused (or bored) rather than being particularly shocked about those questions. (Also, I think an ideal pic should have only one question, not several in a row.)

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BlackDove Since: Dec, 2009
#25: Apr 1st 2012 at 6:32:29 PM

The picture in #20 can't really count. It's not, say, a one person politely asking a question why they are so rude, and breaking down their entire tough person façade, or anything like that. That picture is just the antagonist known as Johan attempting to break down a little kid. The quote from The Crucible could work well, as would the very quote used by L. And, course, I support only having one question, since it's in the name anyway. Ask one question, break the other person's character quite possibly, gain an upper hand, delay whatever they're doing, etc.

edited 1st Apr '12 6:34:40 PM by BlackDove


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