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Deadlock Clock: May 18th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
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#26: Apr 5th 2012 at 1:19:07 PM

Its only sometimes in animation. anywhere else no.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#27: Apr 13th 2012 at 8:34:54 AM

Calling crowner in favor of renaming and expanding.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#28: Apr 13th 2012 at 12:41:28 PM

So what names help show that at least black is being highlighted by two other colors?

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Mafagafo from Pasárgada, Brazil Since: Mar, 2012
#30: Apr 14th 2012 at 11:11:14 PM

Maybe the use of saturation, as in visual editing? Saturated Darkness (more precise world); Saturated Black.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#31: May 15th 2012 at 7:54:08 AM

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#32: May 15th 2012 at 8:22:49 AM

Crowners swapped.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#33: May 15th 2012 at 2:04:37 PM

Color Highlighting Black is not the same trope; this is about a color standing in for black.

edited 15th May '12 2:04:52 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#34: May 15th 2012 at 2:13:42 PM

[up]The context of the description means it stands it partly or mostly, as in things that would be black are made purple or blue as those are "easier to shade quickly and thus give the appearance of three-dimensionality; solid black objects in animation (and theoretically, Real Life) would lack contours and look very flat".

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#35: May 15th 2012 at 2:21:18 PM

[up] Yeah but the point of the trope is that it stands in for black; the fact that there may also be black present isn't important.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#36: May 15th 2012 at 9:57:53 PM

I didn't claim that. I stated that the colors are there to allow highlighting and shading when all black wouldn't do, thus the alt name is valid.

edited 15th May '12 9:58:03 PM by DragonQuestZ

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#37: May 16th 2012 at 1:51:57 AM

Feel free to suggest other names, then.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#38: May 16th 2012 at 7:01:12 AM

Color Stand In For Black is really clunky. Not liking any of the alt titles so far.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#39: May 16th 2012 at 11:00:13 AM

[up]Well the point of the trope is apparently not easy to put into few words.

Hmm, I also note that gray and white can sometimes be used to highlight/shade black as well. So perhaps we can use the words something like "other colors" instead of "blue and purple".

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#40: May 16th 2012 at 11:08:19 AM

You can't use white to stand in for black. How does that even work tongue

Rhymes with "Protracted."
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#41: May 16th 2012 at 11:45:31 AM

[up]Are you assuming this is substitution instead of highlighting? Again, it's about making black more visible via other colors, not swapping another color for black.

What would be the point of swapping black outright?

edited 16th May '12 11:45:55 AM by DragonQuestZ

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#42: May 16th 2012 at 12:11:56 PM

Swapping black outright is extremely common. Look at the current page image, or the page image for Casting a Shadow. Or something like this.

Doug Beyer of the Magic The Gathering creative team offers some insight:

Dear Doug Beyer,

There are several cards in Magic whose artwork will have five colors representing the five colors of Magic. Do you know why oftentimes artists will use purple to represent black and yellow to represent white? I can't think of any specific examples aside from Prismatic Lens, but I know I've seen it before.
—Wes

It's very rare to see true white or true black in the real world. A white sheet of paper has some of the texture of the wood pulp in it, giving it a surface inconsistency that fills it with shadowy blues and grays. The light of the morning sun tinges the paper with highlights of cool creams and warm golds. The crinkles in the paper create tiny peaks and valleys that reflect the cold glare from a fluorescent desk lamp, conjuring flecks of purple and faded green. And that's all in some white paper. When you're illustrating something in three dimensions, a white or black object always has more hues in it than just those monochrome colors. They'll swallow up colors from surrounding light sources and reflect tinges of other colored objects. How much to push white and black away from their stark extremes depends on the artist and the medium. Ittoku kept pretty close to white and black in Gemstone Array, whereas Arnie Swekel's Fist of Suns uses glows of creamy white and a royal, almost magenta-ish purple. Think about this—how would you make black "glow"?

edited 16th May '12 12:13:16 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#43: May 16th 2012 at 7:14:05 PM

[up]Then we have two trope, since highlighting is not substituting. But so far, the discussion here is about the highlighting trope.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#44: Jun 20th 2012 at 6:05:23 AM

Bumping for votes.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#45: Aug 2nd 2012 at 9:18:45 AM

Calling crowner in favor of Darkness Is The New Purple.

We need to rename and expand here.

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