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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#501: Mar 4th 2012 at 6:19:07 AM

I made the same argument about Horny Devils. If I remember, the problem is this:

Aliens likely do exist. However, it's also extremely unlikely that they would be Human Aliens. It's even more unlikely that they will be attractive Human Aliens with a different skin color. That is Rule of Sexy because it's ignoring scientific plausibility for the sake of sexiness.

Cute Monster Girl, however, isn't that. It's creating something which specifically doesn't exist (monsters) which don't follow any perceived hypotheses or rules like extraterrestrial lifeforms. Secondly, "cute" isn't always played for Rule of Sexy. As I said way, way back, we need a trope page defining the difference between pretty, cute, and sexy.

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#502: Mar 4th 2012 at 8:13:44 AM

If you can accept the fact that they're human aliens in the first place, the stretch to have them consider the same things being sexy isn't a stretch at all.

Monsters are still different species from humans. I don't see how them being imaginary makes any real difference.

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#503: Mar 4th 2012 at 9:07:32 AM

If you can accept the fact that they're human aliens in the first place, the stretch to have them consider the same things being sexy isn't a stretch at all.

No, because some Human Aliens can look like this. Though it's a stretch, it's not the same stretch as something which is sexy for no reason. A green-skinned space babe is, by definition, a "babe". She is sexy for no reason.

Monsters are still different species from humans. I don't see how them being imaginary makes any real difference.

Monsters are not a "different species". A monster is a label, not a thing. Michael Myers is a monster, and so is Clover. Aliens can also be mosnters, regardless of how human they are.

edited 4th Mar '12 9:08:33 AM by KingZeal

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#504: Mar 4th 2012 at 9:17:24 AM

This is turning into Argumentum Ad Nauseam. There's no point in continuing this.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#505: Mar 4th 2012 at 12:21:47 PM

"But there's nothing implausible about fighting wearing a Chainmail Bikini."

The trope is not fighting alone (like Mini Dress Of Power), it's that it also functions as well as armor when it shouldn't. The page picture indicates that as well.

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TBeholder Our future is a madhouse from chthonic safety Since: Jan, 2001
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#506: Mar 13th 2012 at 3:04:36 PM

@ #501 King Zeal: there are traditional ideas what a dragon, leprechaun, etc. are. Even if not always quite uncontaminated.

As to the "Rule of" - yeah, they all tend to bloat, mainly due to Missing Supertrope somewhere.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#507: Mar 13th 2012 at 3:20:21 PM

[up]The opening text for Rule of Index technically covers that.

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TBeholder Our future is a madhouse from chthonic safety Since: Jan, 2001
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#508: Mar 13th 2012 at 6:52:51 PM

The point is, if there's a Missing Supertrope or index somewhere, it needs to be defined and set up. If it's already there, just moving/cleaning of examples and cleaning the definition.

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Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#509: Mar 13th 2012 at 7:13:24 PM

Somewhere earlier, I suggested a Contrived Sexiness index/supertrope, but we moved on to debating minutiae..

Rule of Index is a terrible group of pages. They're so unclear that we can spend weeks argue over a single one's meaning without hammering it down properly. Different Rule Of tropes refer to totally different rules. And the names beg for misuse, urging users to pothole to the pages for whatever the rule they think of. (Sexy? It's Rule of Sexy. Done to be sexy? Rule of Sexy. Only done to be sexy? Rule of Sexy. Illogical, but sexy? Rule of Sexy. Impossible. but sexy? Rule of Sexy.)

I argued strongly for one particular definition, but I've since heard so many complaints against it that I'm reconsidering. Perhaps we should instead drop the Rule Of altogether (leaving it only as a redirect) and make some clear pages:

Or something like that.

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#510: Mar 17th 2012 at 6:07:46 AM

Well, that's what I think I may like, but this thread had been up for way too long already. Can we implement the list of tropes we have and close this?

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#511: Mar 17th 2012 at 11:57:30 AM

Well if we can agree on the tropes to list now, that's fine.

I still say that we go for Rule of Cool next, as it's the big one.

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#512: Mar 17th 2012 at 1:59:14 PM

Well, I don't think we're going to get any further, at least, so we might as well save what we have accomplished, and wait for the next time it decays. :)

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