Trope as placeholder.: Trope 2000

Fortunately, there are plenty of options for a better name.

Millenium Celebration Title?

Millennium Version Title? Or Millennium Version Name?

What happened to the last thread that was started on Trope 2000 for having "trope" in the title?

If I remember correctly, the rename option didn't catch on with many people then... or something.

edited 2nd Feb '12 5:51:28 PM by SeanMurrayI

That middle paragraph only indicated when the trope was popular. It does not provide a proper basis for the trope name being changed from a numeral.

edited 2nd Feb '12 6:04:31 PM by DragonQuestZ

Personally, I think this is one of the rare cases where "trope" as a placeholder actually works, but there are only 59 wicks and 8 inbounds in the past year so perhaps it is underused.

Honestly I think it works, but if we have to change it, something like:

Noun2000

X2000

Title2000

edited 15th Feb '12 2:49:40 PM by Catbert

I think it works, too.

I'm pretty sure that this and a couple other tropes using "trope" as placeholder were given a pass by Eddie when we did the big sweep up of them. The other I know of is The Trope Formerly Known as X.

edited 15th Feb '12 2:51:43 PM by ccoa

Title 2000?

Reading the page quote, I'll also throw out Name 2000.

"Trope as placeholder" issues aside, I'd call this title one of my personal favorites. The basic premise covered by the page is understood almost as quickly as it takes to read it, and I don't think something like Millennium Version Title would improve upon that.

I think we can make Title2000 and Name2000 redirects, but I see no need to change the main name.

It's not about tropes, or a self demonstrating title about the page itself (like Our Lawyers Advised This Trope). It's a name format for devices. So "trope" is being used as a placeholder here, and that doesn't work.

So something like Device2000, or Device Something Thousand.

Most of the uses are for works, not devices.

Then we have two tropes, since there are examples where the number is on the devices, not the show title.

And still, neither of those is about tropes, so the name wouldn't fit either of them.

Noun 2000 and Name 2000 could cover both, without needing a split.

edited 15th Feb '12 3:31:19 PM by SeanMurrayI

They aren't really two tropes. They are the same concept, expressed in mildly different ways.

Again, I am almost positive that this one was given a pass when we did the initial purge of "trope as placeholder" names. Nothing has really changed since then, has it?

edited 15th Feb '12 3:34:18 PM by ccoa

All I can say is that this wouldn't be the first time this page found itself in the Repair Shop for this reason.

And, for whatever reason, nothing different has ever come from any of those previous threads.

I say there is a split because there is a bit of a difference in why they are on titles and why they are on devices. In titles, it's often to do with a year. In devices, it's to make it look impressive (when it's actually just a model number).

There are also a select few examples (albeit very few) that are neither titles nor devices and may refer to character names (including androids/robots, which, even generally speaking should be a step above a mere "device").

Again, no need for a split. Noun 2000 and Name 2000, especially the latter, could cover all possibilities at once if this truly needs a new name.

edited 15th Feb '12 3:59:57 PM by SeanMurrayI

I really like Title2000.

A robot is still a device, and would fall under that.

Plus if the reasons for the uses are different, that makes a need for two different tropes. Otherwise it's just slapping a multiple of 1000 on a name, which does not have a purpose on its own.

Not if it's a character. In most circumstances, a robot (whether it has this sort of name or not) would likely have a personality or artificial intelligence and would be treated much, much differently than, say, a coffee maker.

edited 15th Feb '12 5:09:44 PM by SeanMurrayI

I'm not referring to the story purpose for whatever has this name. I'm referring to why something would have X Thousand slapped on the end of their name.

And I'm telling you the trope is not so clear-cut that it could be divided between "work titles" and "devices" only.

Even if it could (and it couldn't, anyway), I'd still say there isn't sufficient reason to merit a split, anyway.

edited 15th Feb '12 5:13:18 PM by SeanMurrayI

Telling is not giving a reason. I've stated the reason (year versus treating a model number as a way to make something seem cooler). You could at least try to disprove that as a difference instead of dismissing it. The former is a fair argument.