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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#16301: Sep 29th 2016 at 3:01:07 AM

The camelot chapter of Grand Order is not in any way, shape or form, the Nasuverse's take on Sonic and the Black Knight.

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Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16302: Sep 29th 2016 at 6:35:31 AM

True, but the whole "defeat King Arthur and the remaining members of the Round Table" plotline is vaguely similar, and it was an excuse for me to write something silly.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#16303: Sep 29th 2016 at 2:49:32 PM

You never actually fight King Arthur in Sonic and the Black Knight, though.

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Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16305: Oct 12th 2016 at 2:09:43 AM

So, I imagine this topic has probably been brought up at some point or another, but has anyone considered the notion of how a Homestuck crossover would work? I'm kinda tempted to just have the Fate cast replace the main kids and mix SBURB with the Holy Grail War through meddling in the former's system.

As for certain players' mythological roles...

  • Shirou Emiya: Page of Heart Sword - Heart being his original aspect but at least partially overridden by Avalon, driving the trolls nuts to no end by his apparent aspect that shouldn't actually exist, but in fact he has two aspects that are linked, due to Avalon shaping Shirou's "Heart", or specifically his soul, from a blank slate, after the Great Fire. Being a Page fits Shirou to a T, where he is initially a hopeless mage and kind of a moron, but over time he achieves his potential, culminating in both Heart powers and Unlimited Blade Works. Being a passive role compared to a knight, Shirou is driven towards protecting others through his aspect.
  • Rin Tohsaka: Knight of Space - this one wasn't really difficult. I can see Rin also being a Seer, but she has an important aspect of a Knight involving concealing her innermost self to most others due to her "perfect student" persona, and she is most closely connected to Space, with her family being "apprentices" to Zelretch, master of the Second Magic and in Heaven's Feel she acquires a weapon that enables her to draw upon the infinite multiverse's worth of mana to become very powerful indeed. She also possesses Magical Ruby, who is also linked to the Second Magic. These tools easily link her to the Knight aspect, which is heavily implied to be defined as "one who equips themselves with [aspect]" or "one who improves themselves with [aspect]".
  • Sakura Matou: Sylph/Witch of ???: This is actually a hard one to nail down. Doom, maybe? I don't think I quite understand Sakura enough to make this judgement, to be honest. But I think she's probably a Sylph or a Witch.
  • Shinji Matou: Bard of ???: Again, Shinji could be any number of aspects, but I think Bard is the only class appropriate for him, due to the codpiece on the god tier outfit.
  • Illyasviel von Einzbern: Seer of Light/Blood: Illya is also a bit tricky to nail down, but I'd say she shares either Rose's role or Kankri's.
  • Bazett Fraga McRemitz: Heir of Time - she's the co-heroine of of a game that is literally about a time loop, and she has a Noble Phantasm that revolves around causality. She's definitely a Time player. She is also likely an Heir since she can manipulate Time and she uses Time to protect herself (though the latter isn't intentional).
  • Souichirou Kuzuki: Thief of Void - Kuzuki essentially has a void in his personality, and lacks weapons of his own to fight, instead utilising his own fighting style which, when properly augmented (or even without augmentation) turns him into an extremely dangerous opponent due to being unpredictable. Well, I'm not sure the Void aspect fits, or the Thief class for that matter, but it's the closest fit I can think of right now.
  • Kiriei Kotomine: Prince of Heart - let's be honest, being a parallel to Shirou, I couldn't pass up making Kirei a Heart player as well, and the Prince aspects fits as well - Kirei is someone who never had a 'heart' to begin with, but unlike Dirk, who acknowledges that he thinks of himself as "heartless" (as a Prince player destroys the aspect in themselves) but is still a fundamentally good person, Kirei is a sociopath who enjoys 'breaking' hearts through the misery of others, which sometimes has an effect of driving others to take the right course of action.

So... Eight-player session, basically. The Servants probably don't get mythological roles, though I know Artoria would instantly fit into the Knight of Light role. I might write up a pesterchum log or two later for kicks.

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#16306: Oct 12th 2016 at 4:45:58 AM

It's a good thing you have Time and Space players who might be able to work together otherwise you'd have an instant doomed session.

Of course, I don't know all that much about Homestuck because I made it up to the reboot thingie and then kinda got sidetracked by a million other things and forgot about it. Not sure whether I should pick up where I left off or start from the beginning now that it's over, though.

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Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16307: Oct 12th 2016 at 6:11:49 PM

I've been looking up the details on the classes and aspects to get a better idea, though there's quite a bit of ambiguity and speculation, which doesn't help.

Watching Voxus' "Let's Read Homestuck" series as it's being reuploaded has certainly gone a long way with helping me actually get into the meat, the chat logs are far, far easier to digest when voiced and in video form (whereas they're extremely tempting to skim through in text form), which is why I hope they finish the rest of Homestuck after they finish Openbound.

Really, though, Homestuck is worth finishing, I think, the post-Scratch material is great, as are the new characters that come with it, and the whole thing actually being finished makes moving through it at one's own pace easier. I think it got too wordy for its own good, but reading everything isn't essentially.

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#16308: Oct 13th 2016 at 4:51:54 PM

Rehash of an old idea: Saberface Grail War. Arturia is Saber, Morgaine Le Fay is Caster (because OF COURSE she'd also be a Saberface like her half-sibling), Busturia is Lancer, Souji is Assassin, Santa Alter is Rider, Mysterious Heroine X is Berserker (because she's clearly developed a monomania, and hence just crazy enough to be one) and Pistoria is Archer. Saber is wondering where the heck the grail dug up these weirdoes, Caster is channeling Kousaka Kirino, Lancer wants to end war with economic, social and agricultural reforms and carries around a cost-benefit analysis for anyone who asks and doesn't ask, Souji is trying to arrest everyone for breaking the anti-weapon laws, Rider declares everyone on the naughty list for fighting, Berserker is trying to put Lancer in a special reserve as the last example of her kind, and no one wants anything to do with Pistoria because of her disgusting 'holy water' ammo.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#16309: Oct 13th 2016 at 5:15:42 PM

SCM, it's not yellow. it was never yellow.

The joke isn't funny, it was never funny, it never will be funny, so cut it out already.

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#16310: Oct 13th 2016 at 5:22:51 PM

1, 2, 3

There. The reservoir is clearly transparent and the contents are CLEARLY YELLOW.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#16311: Oct 13th 2016 at 5:56:41 PM

SCM.

It's not funny.

It was not funny.

It never will be funny.

You can see the water when she shoots it out, and it's clearly and very obviously water

I repeat.

It's not funny

It was not funny.

It never will be funny.

I think I need to repeat it again.

It's not funny.

It was not funny.

It never will be funny.

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#16312: Oct 13th 2016 at 5:59:22 PM

You can see the 'water' in the card, and it is most clearly and definitely yellow.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#16313: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:12:49 PM

No, SCM, no it is not. You can clearly see that the tank is yellow and the water inside it is clear in the card art.

I think I need to make this clear to you, so I will put it in bold.

It will never be funny.

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SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#16314: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:19:33 PM

The tank is transparent. The contents are yellow.

edited 13th Oct '16 6:20:01 PM by SCMof2814

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#16315: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:30:14 PM

SCM, it's not funny. It was never funny. It never will be funny.

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#16316: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:43:26 PM

The tank is transparent. The contents are yellow. It's right there on the artwork.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#16317: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:49:15 PM

You do understand that relentlessly pushing a failed attempt at a meme only makes people dislike it more, right?

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SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#16318: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:50:58 PM

You DO understand I'm not blind and can see the transparent, colorless holding tank and the explicitly yellow contents, right?

Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#16319: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:52:44 PM

Let's take a look at this version of the art since I think it's the cleanest look at the tanks.

For both tanks, we can see that they are partially full, with only small amounts of liquid in them. Notably, the entire tank is yellow, despite there being barely any liquid in them.

Therefore, we can assume that the entire tank is colored yellow, and therefore that the liquid is not necessarily yellow - there is nothing in the art to suggest anything one way or the other, but given that she shoots normal water-colored bursts, we can assume it's probably normal water.

Yes, the tanks are yellow and the rest of it's clear. That's because the tanks are yellow-colored plastic, and the rest of it's clear-colored plastic. That's very much a thing in water guns.

Can we please shut up about this now?

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#16320: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:53:57 PM

You both realize that this is completely retarded since you're just yelling "Yes it is!" "No it's not!" at each other, right?

Or, to put it another way:

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#16321: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:55:05 PM

and the contents are CLEARLY YELLOW

Actually, the contents are all CLEARLY ERROR 1011.

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#16322: Oct 14th 2016 at 4:06:53 AM

I'm gonna have to side with IANCE on this one. It's very clear to me that the unfilled portion of the tanks is yellow, ergo it's the tank that is yellow and the content is ordinary transparent water.

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Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16323: Oct 15th 2016 at 6:28:18 AM

Holy crap, this is the most pointless fandom argument I think I've seen ever. Seriously, guys, it's embarrassing.

Also, this topic has already probably been discussed before, but I also ended up pondering the possible setup of a Steven Universe crossover. Here's the notes that I've come up with:

  • Pink Diamond probably would have had difficulties trying to colonize Earth due to Gaia being hostile towards her efforts.
  • From what I can gather, the Crystal Gem Rebellion begun around 3734 BC, and ended roughly 1000 years later at around 2734BC. Historians reckon that Gilgamesh existed, if he did at all, around 2800-2500BC. So chances are, Rose Quartz and her rebels actually met Gilgamesh at some point at the tail end of their rebellion. Gil and Enkidu may have even helped Rose confront the Diamonds and force them to flee the planet. Rose is one of the few people Gilgamesh possibly respects or is intrigued by, and learning that she essentially sacrificed herself so Steven could be born both fascinates him and causes him to lament her 'demise'.
  • After that, the Crystal Gems spend thousands of years travelling the world and rounding up corrupted gems, likely aided by numerous heroes across history who eventually became Heroic Spirits. So chances are the Gems probably know nearly every Servant, sans EMIYA, whose existence likely confounds them until the reveal. They are also likely acquainted with the likes of Crimson Moon Brunestud and Zelretch, and likely knew of the Holy Grail War before the events of Fate/Zero.
  • The Gems leave an infant/toddler Steven in Greg's care for a bit while they go to Fuyuki, concerned about the Fourth Holy Grail War. Their concerns turn out to be well-founded, mainly due to Caster being out and about, so they help nip that in the bud ASAP. They also get into friction with Kiritsugu, though having been in a war themselves, they kinda sympathise with his attitude, even if they think he's kind of an ass. The inevitable end of the war horrifies them, and they quickly figure out that the Grail is corrupt, but they also know that it's essentially harmless between wars, and they think the Grail can be restored through Rose's magic, or specifically the magic Steven inherited from her, thinking they had a lot more time before the start of the next war. Needless to say, they're wrong.
  • Also feeling a bit guilty for not being able to stop the Fire, the Gems visit Fuyuki often to help Kiritsugu and Shirou with things. Steven ends up seeing Shirou as something of a big brother figure. Pearl actually helps Shirou learn magic properly since she's had a lot of time to study human magecraft.

Of course, I'm actually kinda stumped on how I'd structure such a story proper, but the background is fairly straightforward.

edited 15th Oct '16 8:12:59 AM by Cronosonic

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#16324: Oct 15th 2016 at 7:27:15 AM

Also, the look on the face of any magus who uses jewelcraft when they realize they are talking to intelligent shape shifting jewels.

Actually, I take that back. Most Magi would see them as test subjects. I wouldn't be surprised if there was more than a few times the Crystal Gems got into conflicts with magi for corrupted gems.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#16325: Oct 15th 2016 at 7:30:37 AM

Keep in mind that 'Gilgamesh respects this person' is one of the most blatant ways of crossover wanking out there. It's like using him to worf.

For the record, there's a few ways to make Gilgamesh respect you. Being altruistic and sacrificing is not one of them.

Hell, there's all of one human in the modern world that Gilgamesh has a measure of respect for, and it's, of all people, Waver.

[up]There's two families that use jewelcraft. Tokiomi might see them as test subjects, but Rin is actually a far better person than Tokiomi is and most likely would not. The Edelfelts... well, they did produce the 'actually a decent person don't listen to Rin' that is Luvia, so they probably wouldn't.

edited 15th Oct '16 7:32:09 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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