All-Purpose Nasuverse Fanfiction Thread

But... you can't really Worf like that.

After all, we know their capabilities and we know that the last time they fought, Arturia won even though she had a disadvantage (namely, the fact that she was wielding Rhongomyniad instead of Excalibur).

Incidentally, I'd just like to point out that Arturia, summoned as a proper servant, would be basically unbeatable. 'Cause it's almost certain she'd have Avalon, which makes her flat out invincible.

edited 5th May '15 4:50:20 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

So Arturia summoned by Rin, basically.

Of course, she doesn't really need Avalon for the most part and her Master would have a lot more use for it.

@IANCE: You say that as if having a chance for Mordred to go completely friggin' nuts wasn't my intended point.

That said, Arturia has neither Avalon nor Excalibur, just Rhongomyniad. And I do think that she's probably still going to win a duel against Mordred 7 times out of ten, particularly since she has the better Master (though not as good as Rin).

That said, Arturia wants Britain to be ruled by someone better than her. Mordred wants a shot at pulling the sword from the stone herself so that she can rule much, much better than Arturia did.

So a part of me wonders: depending on her views of Mordred as a potential monarch (who was once the most chivalrous and knightly of all King Arthur's knights up until it became clear her old man hated her), Arturia might realize that Mordred defeating her and taking the Grail would grant both of their wishes.

And then the last paragraph is someone reading a book about the legend of Mordred the Masculine, king of Camelot.

The book which starts with the line "Mordred was the very image of manliness" and ends with the line "but I'd still hit it."

In all seriousness, Saber, even after Iskander has destroyed her image of what a King is (making it clear to her that what she was was a 'savior' and not a 'king'), will not accept Mordred as King. Mostly because the real reason everything went to shit was because, well, Mordred rebelled.

The only reason Arturia will ever accept Mordred as her successor is if Mordred manages to pull Caliburn out of the stone right in front of her.

In the Nasuverse, the reason s/he rebelled was daddy issues. Arturia rejected him as her son, and so he decides there's no point in being a perfect knight since daddy won't pay attention to her that way, so WILL YOU PAY ATTENTION TO ME WHEN I CAUSE A CIVIL WAR, HUH BITCH?

Mordred didn't just cause a civil war. He outright plotted the whole fall of Camelot.

If I recall correctly, F/A reveals that Mordred was the one who discovered and leaked out Lancelot's affair, leading to that blood bath and weakening faith in the king further.

All because Mordred suffered from "Well Done, Son" Guy so much that she went absolutely fucking nuts when it turned out daddy didn't want her magical homunculus clone that was also the product of incest and possibly rape.

...

Well, that is not a sentence I expected to write when I woke up today.

My interpretation is the troll Merlin magically futa'd her, so she got pissed. Morgaine, being a good little sister, tries to help her get over, it, they go drinking...

Cut to 'who did I do last night?'

Considering that Morgana tried to raise Mordred to hate King Arthur...

(keyword being "tried", since she failed miserably and Mordred wound up having a titanic crush on King Arthur... and I can't believe I found an appropriate way to use 'Titanic', since it also ended on disaster)

edited 6th May '15 10:27:33 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

So then, I think we can agree that everything is all Arturia's fault, for condemning Mordred because of shit the latter had no control over?

Did Arturia even condemn Mordred? I mean, a Perfect King doesn't condemn someone for personal reasons.

Arturia did her damnedest to live up to her ideal of a Perfect King, but that ultimately did not match up with her subjects' ideal of a Perfect King.

...at least, that's how I remember it. Which totally could be wrong.

It sounds wrong to me. Arturia was undoubtedly a perfect king. The problem, as stated by one of the knights as he was leaving Camelot, was that "King Arthur doesn't understand human emotions."

Well, just go watch that episode of Fate/Zero where Arturia, Gilgamesh, and Iskander talk about leading people. Everything Iskander says are basically the problems everyone had with her rule.

No, the ideal of a perfect King wasn't something that Arturia actually came up with out of thin air; it's basically "do everything required to fulfill what's best for the country and its subjects". Said subjects just couldn't relate to the emotionless, mechanical and purely pragmatic ruler that fulfilling such an ideal required of her to become, especially since they steadily grew resentful of how their king could not relate to a normal human being's emotions and desires at all, let alone factor those very things into any of the decisions that "he" takes on behalf of the people (That is, what is "best" for the country and people as a whole is not always what said people want to happen).

edited 6th May '15 12:32:58 PM by MarqFJA

Basically, humans are fickle assholes.

And selfish ones who prefer having fun for themselves right now than ensure that future generations do not suffer the way they do/did, at that.

Well, yeah. That's not hard to figure out at all, just from looking at history.

Arturia didn't condemn Mordred.

IIRC, her last words to Mordred started with the line "not once did I hate you", and that the reason she never acknowledged Mordred as her heir was simply because Mordred was not fit to be her heir. And given that Arturia holding Caliburn or Avalon is ageless, she doesn't need an heir anyway.

What Arturia did that pissed off Mordred was refuse to acknowledge her as her son. Mordred discovered it, Arturia discovered it, and when Mordred went to Arturia, Arturia went "lolnope". There wasn't condemnation, per se.

Anyway, the point is, Mordred threw a temper tantrum because she'd idolized King Arthur to a ridiculous degree and then found out King Arthur didn't like her as much as she liked 'him'. Typical yandere.

For the record, the conclusion Gilgamesh and Iskander came to was that Arturia was a Savior, not a King. She was a savior to her people, coming to them in their hour of need. But she was not their King.

edited 6th May '15 2:37:09 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

....hey, Mage, Rob.

Given that Servants are super-duper magical existences, do you reckon they could eat the fruit from Helheim without suffering from its mutagenic effects? Just convert it to mana, sort of like what the Sengoku Drivers do with fruit-turned-Lockseeds?

edited 6th May '15 2:58:36 PM by EvaUnit01

The problem is that heavily implied that Helheim fruit isn't just a biological mutagenic, it was a conceptual mutagenic as well (hopefully, that's make sense).

If anything, Servant with right mind-set could actually benefitted from Helheim Fruit, just like Kaito.

Fruit at least makes more sense that #$^#^*#$Q^$%& switches...

.....

I got a little off topic when you asked this in the Tokusatsu thread.

I gotta say I'm not sure. the Helheim fruit is something completely unknown to the world, and Servants are basically walking ghosts given physical form.

Both are too out there to determine if the Fruits would work on them or not.

So basically, it's up to author discretion? Gotcha.

Like pretty much everything else.