All-Purpose Nasuverse Fanfiction Thread

It's not really "lives", it's a stock of resurrection magic. So if getting killed multiple times by a really big attack bothers you that much, just think of it as the damage being so extensive that God Hand has to blow multiple resurrection spells to repair the damage enough to get him back to life.

My understanding of God Hand is that it 1. resurrects Berserker, unless his stock of lives is up, and 2. makes his skin impervious to whatever killed him. In theory, things that bypass skin, such as that curse of the Hassan or maybe Spear of Impaling Barbed Death, should not get the immunity effect, though you still have to hit him with them multiple times to get through his lives. There's one fic where Lancer stabs Berserker with Gae Bolg, then just leaves it in the wound and activates Impaling Barbed Death twelve times to kill him permanently.

Shinigan (Naruto fanfic)

Doesn't Lancer have to have Gae Bolg in his hands to use it? Which means he'd have to be within melee range of Berserker. And it's been proven that anyone with sufficient determination in the Nasuverse can and will fight even if they shouldn't be able to, so I don't think having a spear on his heart would do much to stop Berserker from turning Lancer to mush.

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That would be Lancer Gets Serious, which I've read. I liked it, though I'm not sure if that trick would actually work.

The premise is in the title: Kotomine allows Lancer to fight to his full potential mostly on a whim (telling him to defeat all the other servants), and Lancer goes to work doing just that, though there are elements of all three routes in it as well.

And to answer your inquiry, I believe something happened to Berserker prior that left him badly mangled, so that he couldn't actually regenerate first before Lancer pulled that stunt (since we already mentioned that he does need a few seconds to regenerate when he gets messed up badly enough, such as when Rin Rin blew his head off).

edited 1st Nov '13 8:35:55 PM by HandsomeRob

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Lancer's probabilities of winning depend on his ability to take out Berserker. If he can find some way of taking out Berserker (by throwing Saber at him and getting her to Excaliblast him to oblivion), then he has a shot at victory (since all he has to do from then on is Gae Bolg everything until he's the only one standing). If he pwns Saber before she pwns Berserker, or Saber is pwned by Berserker, then he's boned against Berserker.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

... I'm sorry to say that I can't quite understand what that means in relation to the "killing Berserker several times before he gets immunity" topic.

edited 2nd Nov '13 5:15:52 AM by MarqFJA

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Marq, there's simply no way I can explain that to you in which you will possibly understand.

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Otherarrow: It couldn't easily bypass the skin, though, because the skin covers the entire body.

I guess sticking it up his ass might work....

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Actually, the skin doesn't cover the entirety of the body. The eyes, the mouth, the ears, the nose... those are all weak points if it's just the skin. And Gae Bolg will go through Berserker's nose if it has to. There are a gazillion orifices Gae Bolg could bypass God Hand with if it's just the skin.

edited 2nd Nov '13 4:18:57 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

The mucous membranes inside most of the obvious orifices still count as skin. Though now I'm imagining Gae Bolg actually burrowing in through Berserker's nose and getting to the heart that way.

Shinigan (Naruto fanfic)

It's not just his skin. Berserks entire body is affected by the Noble Phantasm.

I wouldn't be surprised since, due to its effect being "destined to piece the heart as soon as he activates it", it just suddenly appears in Berserker's chest after he thrusts it and whatnot but when/if it is pulled out, there is no hole or external wound.

How? Who knows? I don't think Nasu really gave much thought into how those two would interact.

edited 2nd Nov '13 4:38:53 PM by Otherarrow

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We better hope so, or some sick bastard really will have a scene where Gae Bolg enters Berserker through his ass.

Then all of us will regret this discussion.

ALL OF US.

I can totally believe that. Some of his explanations for why something does something can be pretty ridiculous.

edited 2nd Nov '13 4:37:55 PM by HandsomeRob

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Actually he did. He stated outright that Lancer would have to boost Gae Bolg with runes to increase it's rank to A to have chance at hurting Berserk, so any ideas about Gae Bolg bypassing God Hand can be put down.

edited 2nd Nov '13 4:40:26 PM by Shlugo_the_great

Oh right. Gae Bolg is only B rank somehow, and even if it wasn't/if he did power it up, he'd only be able to get one kill due to his skin gaining an immunity to it.

After that, he aims for the ass.

...wait, the weapon that alters fate so that it will hit the heart before it is trust is only B rank. Wow.

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And yet somehow a Traced Caliburn is A-Rank.

For some reason, I'm thinking of a Deconstruction Fic that deconstructs "Lawl, Genderbent servant" and have Julius Caesar be originally a male, but for reasons unknown, is told that he'll be summoned as a woman. He refuses, and the end result is something akin to Sakura where he looks like a buff male muscle builder but really is a woman.

IIRC, Gae Bolg is B rank because despite how insane its effect sounds, it's apparently a pretty simple thing that consumes little prana. You have to consider that the Fraga can produce a similar effect through Fragarach.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

Is Spear of Striking Death Flight A-rank? That seems like it's more on Excalibur-levels of output, given the various descriptions.

Shinigan (Naruto fanfic)

Yeah, EXTRA does note that Gae Bolg is rather easy on the mana reserves.

Also, it is fairly straightforward attack wise aside from the "changes fate to hit the heart" thing. He thrusts it. it pierces. In the heart.

edited 2nd Nov '13 5:08:53 PM by Otherarrow

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B+. And it's far cry from Excalibur beam of pure "fuck off and die!".

Isn't the Excaliblast supposta be capable of one-shotting Berserker? Saber got nerfed in the fifth war by getting the hands down shittiest Master. At least Shinji would've forced her to eat humans so she could at least have a chance...

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

Yeah, if Saber actually got a competent master like Rin or better yet Illya... the war would be pretty short. I'm actually writing fic with such a premise.

Also, I'd like to see Shinji trying to force Saber to do something. His shitty little book would be worth squat.

Saber does want to win, and killing her master (even if it's a fake master) would be counter productive to that.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

He doesn't need his dick to live, does he?