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That's not what the word means (alt-title crowner): Napier get usage counts

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Yeah, I'm not a big fan of any of the options, but the winner at least made the meaning clear, unlike Fake Mark.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 52 Ironeye, Sun, 9th Sep '12 8:29:47 PM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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I think Fake Mark will be plenty clear any time it's in-context (i.e. every time, if examples are being written properly).
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 53 Septimus Heap, Sun, 9th Sep '12 11:35:29 PM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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^Which they often won't. I really wish we had a way to prevent Zero Context Examples from being added.

 54 Ironeye, Mon, 10th Sep '12 2:02:59 AM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
I can't believe I'm saying this, since I'm usually one of the people arguing for more clarity, but attempting to find names that make complete sense with no context will lead us down the path of madness. The results are usually clunky as hell, since the name has to provide its own context, and they can still be misinterpreted because they don't provide context for the context—the English language can be a bitch that way. (Is it a con where the con man has to wear the mark's clothes at some point to pull off the con?)

I don't think overly context-dependent names are good, but when the required context is "person" and "con", I don't think we're not asking for too much.

All that being said, I disagree with Eddie's decision to Admin Fiat the name, even if I do like the name he picked.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
World's Toughest Milkman
I agree that we do sometimes get too focused on pure clarity, to the exclusion of all else, at TRS sometimes. But Fake Mark seems just too potentially unclear to me. It does win on conciseness, but that's the only advantage I see, and Conman In Marks Clothing is not exactly a long name, and it definitely wins on both clarity and wit. (The wit may not be outstanding, but it's non-zero.)

If this were a more common trope, I might be more concerned with conciseness, but honestly, I've been hunting for examples for the YKTTW, and it really doesn't seem to be as common as I thought it would be.

eta: if even you happen to realize that "mark" is being used in the context of a con, instead of any of the other dozen meanings of the word, you can still misunderstand Fake Mark as being, for example, a third party you're pretending to con so that the real con isn't spotted.

edited 10th Sep '12 2:44:03 AM by Xtifr

"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 56 Septimus Heap, Mon, 10th Sep '12 2:42:47 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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[up][up]That was actually discussed in Wiki Talk recently.

edited 10th Sep '12 2:43:10 AM by SeptimusHeap

 57 lu 127, Fri, 26th Oct '12 10:53:07 PM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Locking this.
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Alternative Titles: Napier
6th May '12 7:22:58 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the name will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of Crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative names.
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