This is not a trope about bears: Exit Pursued By A Bear

How exactly are we defining "illustrate" in that context?

No it doesn't. Please explain how it does. Other than "it illustrates the title, and that is an example" because obviously everyone who disagrees that the image illustrates the trope is not satisfied by that answer.

IMO that was an very bad move by Eddie because it sets a precedent for all kinds of poor-quality images to be suggested or left on pages. We have always used demonstrating the trope as the hallmark of a good page image, and I see no reason to start doing it differently.

It doesn't even illustrate it in that way.

I just had an idea. If someone knows of where to get a pic or a screencap of a villain being chased away with the hero laughing at him or looking pleased or something, I think that would be a good illustration.

Well, I'm trying to wrap my head around "illustrate," but regardless the image does not illustrate it well. I'm gonna say pull.

When I said it doesn't describe the trope, I meant that it doesn't offer a complete description of the trope. I think we can agree on that.

When I said it doesn't mislead I meant that there is nothing about the picture that tells a story different from the trope, which may lead to someone thinking the trope is about something else entirely. The only possible confusion may lie in that it's specifically a bear and not some other creature that's allowed by the trope. Other than that, every aspect of the picture is a part of the trope.

I also think it's better to have a picture that's more specific than the trope compared to one that's less specific. An exact choice would be the perfect solution. Or you can just try to find a pic of a large, vicious animal that isn't a bear. Or a tiger, since it's not Exit Pursued By Tiger. Or any other specific animal.

Thus, my opinion so far is to keep the picture, as it does no harm, and while it only shows a part of the trope, it still shows a part of the trope, which is better than nothing. That's also what was meant by illustrating the trope, I believe.

edited 18th Jan '12 10:04:18 PM by Feather7603

No image would be even less misleading.

But this I think is better than both of them:

edited 19th Jan '12 12:48:38 AM by rodneyAnonymous

That's a very good pic. It illustrates villain, the large, ferocious animal, and implies a sudden exit.

That's lovely.

Vote for Captain Hook

Anyway we can find a pic of Captain Hook actually running off into the distance with the croc after him and maybe peter pan in view as well?

The Hook pic, provided we can't find one with Peter as well, is great.

I agree that the Hook is a good one.

edited 19th Jan '12 10:48:22 AM by Spark9

Captain Hook is a lot like the current pic, but it has the added advantage of showing an iconic villain instead of a random running man, as well as not showing a literal bear.

I don't think this has much to do with running off into the distance, or with Peter. "Peter Pan" has been rendered in very many incarnations, and in most of them Hook is eaten by the crocodile. In the Disney version he literally "exits pursued by a crocodile" instead of something more explicit.

Ah.

edited 19th Jan '12 11:46:34 AM by rodneyAnonymous

Having Peter there helps underline the "Keeps the good guys from having to get their hands dirty" aspect. It's not vital, but it could help make the illustration of the trope even clearer.

Good point. But if we can't find one, I'm happy with that picture, with the caption going "Keeps the good guys from having to get their hands dirty."

I vote we put up the Captain Hook pic. It's a winner if I ever saw one.

Maybe someone could shop Peter Pan in

No, that's...what's a polite way to say "a really stupid idea"?

Hook, Pirates, Crock, Peter◊

Crude but effective...how's it look at wiki size?

Honestly, I think that's more of a Funny Background Event. Also, the way they're laughing at Hook kind of dirties their hands. Or at least their karma.

Yeah, I think adding the extra characters is a definite downgrade. It pulls focus from the trope and doesn't really improve anything. I like just Hook and the croc.