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Brandon Not a cat from Meribia Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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#1: Jan 16th 2012 at 8:49:50 AM

This topic can cover any medium.

I ask because I often here stories of executives demanding outrageous changes to a film, the film gets openly criticized, or tanks, and executives look at the director as the reason the movie was bad, and put the blame on him or her. The director loses clout, and the executive keeps their job.

One example I can think of is the director of Wild Hogs did a movie called "Old Dogs" which had a lot of executive changes to make it more family friendly, and the film tanked (and overall sucked). Because of this executives refused to let the director do a Wild Hogs sequel (which may or may not be a good thing. YMMV). even though it was their own fault the movie did lousy.

Has an executive though ever gotten comeuppance for their actions? Maybe not fired, but demoted maybe?

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jewelleddragon Also known as Katz from Pasadena, CA Since: Apr, 2009
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#2: Jan 16th 2012 at 10:07:28 AM

Breaking news: Corporate leadership not held responsible for massive screw-up.

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#3: Jan 16th 2012 at 10:43:05 AM

They aren't even held responsibile for their accounting practices.

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#4: Jan 16th 2012 at 2:23:07 PM

One thing that annoys me often, is how there's this constant assumption Executive Meddling is _always_ bad. Because we never hear of the times when the system work. Actually, our wiki page says it best:

Not to mention, executives aren't always wrong; just like there are good and bad writers, there are executives that are good at their job and executives that are bad. But, well, since when does someone doing their job right get any attention? The prevalence of this trope leads people to think any retools or "Jump the Shark" ordeals are a result of outside influences. There is something of a bias, as the times where Executive Meddling works are rarely reported — no one complains when the system works. However, when something breaks, everyone knows about it. After all, what director would say "my original idea wasn't that good, but some guy behind a desk gave me one that worked better" rather than "The guy behind the desk is responsible for that pile of crap because he prevented me from doing my original idea"?

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#5: Jan 16th 2012 at 2:41:02 PM

Recent example: MT Carney at Disney. Inexperienced in working in Hollywood, many of the ad campaigns she handled were half-assed and not well put together. She was fired after a year (at a company known for having people with long tenures).

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jewelleddragon Also known as Katz from Pasadena, CA Since: Apr, 2009
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#6: Jan 16th 2012 at 3:03:26 PM

[up][up]Star Wars and The Cabinet Of Dr Caligari come to mind (the former being the result of just about everyone meddling, it seems).

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#7: Jan 16th 2012 at 3:33:06 PM

Alan Ladd Jr. was cool about Star Wars. Also, we wouldn't have Blade Runner, The Right Stuff, Once Upon A Time In America or Braveheart if not for Ladd's enthusiasm for those projects.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Jan 16th 2012 at 4:14:52 PM

There is a difference between general support and good executive interference. I think Ladd just saw great potential in those projects and thus gave it a great deal of support when others didn't see the value in it, he didn't get personally involved in the creative process.

And a lot of studio execs tend to be virtually nameless, so if they got fired for screwing up a project we rarely hear about it.

Gray64 Since: Dec, 1969
#9: Jan 17th 2012 at 10:15:10 PM

Star Wars, and it's sequels, were still hampered by executive meddling, just executive meddling by some executives and executive protection from...well, from Alan Ladd, Jr his own self. The one good exec doesn't negate the behavior of the ones he was protecting Lucas from. And besides, Ladd wasn't trying to tell Lucas how to tell his story.

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#10: Jan 18th 2012 at 3:29:24 PM

[up] You're talking about the original trilogy here and not the prequels, right?

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Jan 19th 2012 at 2:56:01 PM

That would be A New Hope only. Lucas had the financial clout to personally finance every Star Wars film after that and only relied on Fox for distribution, specifically because all of the nagging and stress from during the first film (Lucas was diagnosed with hypertension it was so stressful).

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#12: Jan 21st 2012 at 12:57:32 PM

Jeff Jarret lost TNA, Steve Jobs got bought out. That's really how executives pay for screwing up their own work, by the competition.

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Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#13: Jan 21st 2012 at 3:06:23 PM

The executives were horrible to Star Wars. They gave Lucas shit for the fact that Chewbacca doesn't wear pants. He's a hero for putting up with them, if nothing else.

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