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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#1: Dec 26th 2011 at 7:01:26 PM

This is interesting, but I'm gonna call BS on it 'till I see it.

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Wulf Gotta trope, dood! from Louisiana Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Dec 26th 2011 at 7:29:02 PM

Hm... could just as easily just be trying to prevent anyone else from being able to use that technology, should it arise. Still, if they are actually trying to do this, more power to 'em.

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#3: Dec 26th 2011 at 8:16:30 PM

Granted, Mercedes-Benz had that Vision F125 concept car that had a revolutionary high-capacity fuel cell, so...

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#4: Dec 26th 2011 at 9:11:04 PM

Would it have an external supply for hydrogen or would it just be using it for a battery?

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breadloaf Since: Oct, 2010
#5: Dec 26th 2011 at 9:33:08 PM

That doesn't seem safe :P

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#6: Dec 26th 2011 at 9:54:33 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but has anything yet been constructed with a functional hydrogen fuel cell? Because this sounds like smoke and mirrors designed to appear impressive.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#7: Dec 26th 2011 at 10:04:06 PM

I seriously doubt it's any more dangerous than the battery melting.

"Constructed" or "constructed with the intent and ability to be mass produced"? The first: all the time. The second: not yet.

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#8: Dec 26th 2011 at 10:19:12 PM

@Blue: The several cars built by Mercedes-Benz for the Fuel Cell World Drive (the ending of which coincided with Benz' 125th anniversary, if I recall correctly)? tongue

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#9: Dec 27th 2011 at 2:35:20 PM

I think I worded it poorly; the only hydrogen fuel cells I've heard of have been for vehicles. I mean, I don't care how much snob appeal it has, I can't see the average Apple fanboy carting around a car battery to power his new iPhone. tongue

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#10: Dec 27th 2011 at 2:42:57 PM

I for one welcome the return of the brick.

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breadloaf Since: Oct, 2010
#11: Dec 27th 2011 at 2:49:46 PM

Well yeah, the miniaturisation is also an issue. Not sure how you can compare a tank of hydrogen being "just as dangerous" as a lithium-ion battery, but okay. I suppose we can assume they make the hydrogen less explody.

Size concerns are large. I'm not sure how this is more green though. Apple is pretty notorious for pretend-green. Let's say they do this. Well we weren't exactly burning coal to power up iPhones (unless you're in America). If you're in Canada, it was hydro/nuclear, if you're in Europe it's solar/wind/nuclear. Switching to hydrogen fuel cells isn't more green than lithium-ion batteries. If they did super-capacitors and then invested in wind farms in America, that would actually be green.

This... not green.

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#12: Dec 27th 2011 at 10:01:00 PM

Well, if the tank in question is the size of your thumb, there likely wouldn't be enough to actually cause a large explosion, more likely a sudden flare and then out it goes. Where as melted lithium is a molten metal. It would depend on how much they use.

As for being green, wouldn't know unless I could see the final result. Don't really care, this just falls into the "neat" category for me.

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#13: Dec 27th 2011 at 10:24:48 PM

@Blue: To be fair, modern electric cars and hybrids use lithium-ion cells, so...

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