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Digital_Utopia Since: Dec, 2009
#26: Dec 28th 2011 at 1:19:53 AM

The confusion might be more due to the haphazard way the Portmanteau was created. For instance, if it was Masquertainment, the origins of both parts would be much more clear - considering that "tainment" is a very common way of shortening/combining entertainment, and "Masquer" can really only be short for one word.

TripleElation Diagonalizing The Matrix from Haifa, Isarel Since: Jan, 2001
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#27: Dec 28th 2011 at 2:12:37 AM

The Pikachu Effect was named after a much more famous Pokemon, and that got renamed, so... tongue

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#28: Dec 28th 2011 at 7:13:13 AM

Completely unrelated. (Are you sure that's a response for this topic and not something else?)

edited 28th Dec '11 7:13:45 AM by Stratadrake

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HiddenFacedMatt Avatars may be subject to change without notice. Since: Jul, 2011
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#30: Dec 31st 2011 at 6:29:30 AM

Fiction as Cover-Up seems a bit vague. Entertainment Induced Deniability seems a bit better.

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DrMcNinja Batman Since: May, 2011
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#31: Dec 31st 2011 at 6:38:06 AM

Matt, why don't you reflect your opinion by voting in the crowner as everyone else does, instead of posting? Let the crowner reflect what name people prefer, don't try to force your opinion.

It's like when you bump threads that are in the first page. Or bump a thread that had activity five minutes before you "bumped" it (Money Spider trs, if anyone wonders). Stop doing that.

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#32: Dec 31st 2011 at 9:06:38 AM

Vagueness is something worth taking into consideration. Nothing wrong with commenting on it. Discussion good.

Bumping less good, though. Try not to do too much of that.

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DrMcNinja Batman Since: May, 2011
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#33: Dec 31st 2011 at 9:34:09 AM

I don't think it's vague, I feel it's a good name for the trope, and people seem to think the same, otherwise it wouldn't be the highest voted proposal.

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#34: Dec 31st 2011 at 10:10:01 AM

And that would be a counter-argument. I'm inclined to agree with you, there.

It's good to be able to express that opinion and discuss this like adults, no?

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#35: Dec 31st 2011 at 10:23:24 AM

I don't particularly like the leading option Fiction as Cover-Up (aren't most cover-stories / cover-ups by definition fiction?), but I don't have anything better at this time.

edited 31st Dec '11 10:30:15 AM by Stratadrake

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DrMcNinja Batman Since: May, 2011
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#36: Dec 31st 2011 at 10:23:40 AM

[up][up]I felt it added nothing, that's why asked him to just vote. The option is in the crowner and people like it, it must be good enough. Just saying that seemed like "I don't like it and that's all I have to say".

So no need to imply we're acting like kids ¬¬

edited 31st Dec '11 10:23:58 AM by DrMcNinja

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#37: Dec 31st 2011 at 10:37:11 AM

I'm sorry. I just don't think there was any call to shout down his attempt at discussion. We haven't always relied so heavily upon crowners, and I'd argue that crowners without accompanying discussion are of limited value.

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DrMcNinja Batman Since: May, 2011
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#38: Dec 31st 2011 at 10:48:07 AM

[up] It's alright. I agree with you, but I felt that "it's vague" was a poor argument. Pelillos a la mar, as they say here in Spain (it's a proverb that means "let's just forget about it").

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#39: Dec 31st 2011 at 11:38:54 AM

[up]Since merely calling something "vague" is actually vague itself. One needs to state why it's vague, which has been useful in several threads and ykttws.

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DrMcNinja Batman Since: May, 2011
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#40: Jan 4th 2012 at 3:29:06 AM

If I remember correctly names don't require a 2:1 in order to be accepted, right? Can we call this crowner then?

edited 4th Jan '12 3:29:26 AM by DrMcNinja

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#41: Jan 4th 2012 at 6:19:51 AM

They don't, but we prefer not to call them when two people voting could flip the lead as is the current case. I would prefer to get a few more votes first.

edited 4th Jan '12 6:20:22 AM by shimaspawn

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MyTimingIsOff Since: Dec, 2011
#42: Jan 7th 2012 at 2:03:20 PM

Bumping for more votes.

MyTimingIsOff Since: Dec, 2011
#43: Jan 10th 2012 at 2:19:14 PM

Is this ready to call now? This crowner's been stable for quite a while.

LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#45: Jan 10th 2012 at 4:49:22 PM

Masquerainment and Entertainment Assisted Masquerade are now redirects for Fiction as Cover-Up, the wicks should be fixed, and there are notes about the change on the Renamed Tropes page and in the renamed tropes thread. I also sent a report to move the archived discussion page for Masquerainment to Fiction as Cover-Up.

Feel free to check my work here in case I made any mistakes, especially since I feel like I might have rushed this a bit.

edited 10th Jan '12 4:49:50 PM by LouieW

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MyTimingIsOff Since: Dec, 2011
#46: Jan 10th 2012 at 9:08:37 PM

Everything's finished here except for the movement of the discussion page (although there isn't any actual discussion, just a YKTTW attachment).

Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#47: Jan 11th 2012 at 3:54:14 AM

Good work as always. Thanks guys. Locking.

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SingleProposition: Masquerainment
22nd Dec '11 12:14:10 PM

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