Argentine Politics Thread

At this point I doubt argentina will get outta this mess without a full economic clusterfuck given how its government is making so much political spectacle out of "heroically resisting the evil vulture funds" and will thus refuse to pay up until its too late.

In other news, someone from the daily beast heads to that new "Malvinas Museum" and confirms that yes, it is another North Korea style propaganda piece.

In other news, Atlantic wet.

I'm rooting for Argentina over the vulture funds, frankly.

Excellent Polandball about Argentina's flag.◊

edited 6th Sep '14 5:09:10 PM by JackOLantern1337

I don't get it. And usually I really get Polandballs

Argentina's flag depicts the sun, whilst that of Honduras depicts the stars. Because they are are otherwise fairly similar, the joke is that Argentina and Honduras are actually the same country - Argentina by day, Honduras by night.

Oooh. Lol

BBC: Argentine policeman jumps on car during protest

From the Israel/Palestine thread:

He's right. A more neutral rename would be nice, musical references be damned.

The standard Fillintheblank Politics?

...How about just "Argentina"? I mean North Korea's thread is called just North Korea. It is much harder to find something NK than it is about Argentine. They can have a neutral thread name, why not here?

That would work too.

This thread was originally just about the actions of the Argentine government when it comes to the Falklands, thus the tittle. However since it's now a general Argentina thread a rename does seem appropriate.

As for the idea that people are continuously negative towards Argentina, I don't know about anyone else but I'm only negative towards the government (and try and make that clear in my posts), I'm sure the people are lovely, but I stand that the government is bloody crazy a lot of the time.

I'd just like to point out most of us ridicule it's government, not it's people. I feel nothing but sympathy for them given how wildly out of wack it's policies are.

To contextualize, my outburst came because, in the other thread, when it was brought the news that some Argentine people decided to sue Israel people immediately brought up UK, the Falklands and nazis and accused them of potential attention whoring. To clarify further, the news was about some Argentine citizens, not the government, citizens. And no one actually discussed the news itself (although probably because no one could read it).

That was not the first time either. I've been seeing similar attitudes rather regularly in this forum. As soon as Argentina is brought up people seems to be immediately dismissive or hostile. It is getting tiring.

Also, I am not pointing fingers. I am talking about the situation as I perceive it. I honestly don't pay enough attention on handles to know exactly who are consistently hostile to the government alone and those who attack the people as well. But I will reinforce that I definitively see more than just hate against the government.

edited 7th Sep '14 5:22:51 AM by Heatth

Yeah that particular instance was silly, the Falklands realy shouldn't have been bought up there, now I'd say there's a logic in bringing up the fact that Argantina has a history of sheltering Nazis, but only the same logic that would aplly if say a bunch of [insert other Nazi sheltering nationality here] tried to sue the Israli goverment.

No, the fact that the country sheltered nazi over 50 years ago have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that some people from there decided to sue Israel. It make as much sense as implying that, if a German criticizes Israel, it must have to do with nazism. Implying otherwise is just poor taste overall and inherently fallacious.

The troper who brought that up was (probably) clearly joking, though, as they stroked out the comment. That alone wouldn't be an issue, even if I feel it is poor taste.

edited 7th Sep '14 5:43:42 AM by Heatth

Yes, I might have been a little in poor taste. Although, it was rather late in the evening for me^note  Almost 23:00 .

However, the relationship between Britain and Argentina is coloured by The Falklands War — for example, see the rather brutal Argentina–England football rivalry.

Oh, come off it, you can't keep hating people over a mini-war that was over in a flash. Heck, hating anyone just because your governments set you at each others' throats strikes me as... I need to find the right word for it... let's go with "misplaced" for now.

They DO continue harassing them over it, including trying to politicize the Olympics, so it's not 'just' that war.

The war is only a part of a longstanding dispute.

Also, I remember some Argentina fans displaying banners about the Malvinas in the World Cup a while ago. On both sides, there are citizens who will buy whatever the governments tell them and vocally support them.

Forget about that. Just observe the comment section under any Falkland-related video on You Tube. Or the British & Argentine national anthems, for that matter.

Some people know how to hold grudges.

As I said earlier:

Seriously, can we just stop discussing the fucking Islands already? Have a funny advert:

edited 7th Sep '14 6:39:36 AM by Achaemenid

What matters is what the Islanders think — and they don't want (and have voted against) any change to the current arrangements^note  The Falkland Islands have no native population, by the way .

edited 7th Sep '14 6:43:22 AM by Greenmantle

Diego Maradonna is a cheating sack of excrement.

There, I said it.

edited 7th Sep '14 6:45:46 AM by Deadbeatloser22