Grimm

Honestly, she's starting to feel like less of a character to me.

New Juliette's a bitch.

Causing trouble for the sake of causing trouble, and blaming everyone else for the results of your decisions, is not the way to endear the audience to you.

When she starts to use her Hexenbiest powers to help the gang, then I'll throw my hat in her corner of the ring (mixing metaphors ftw!)

edited 24th Apr '15 3:53:27 PM by Eagal

Well it seems like she decided to take your hat, a few bridges, & the trailer and decided to burn them. Alas poor water gun we hardly knew ye.

With that said, I stand by my previous statement and will like to add that I dislike Kenneth. I'm not the type throw Sue accusations around, but he's definitely rubbing me the wrong way.

Ack, I missed the episode!

Preliminary comment on Kenneth: Unless he went mano e mano with Nick tonight and came out on top, he's only had two episodes. Give him time.

I am just tired of seeing Juliette constantly victimized. It would be one thing if she were simply feed up, but it is heavily suggested that her personality changes are the result of a body change she didn't consent to. That is pretty horrifying.

Which is why I'm leaving it at "he's rubbing me the wrong way" for now.

True. I can, kinda, understand. But even if they did help her there would be a lot of damage done and I don't think she will forgiven easily in-universe or out. And if she does return to normal after all of this, it would feel cheap.

Anyone else feel weird about the fact that Adalind is pretty much reminding everyone she, assuming I remembering the definition correctly, raped Nick.

Saw the episode. Seriously, fuck new Juliette. Why is Renard's mom the only non-asshole Hexenbiest.

Kenneth is a Magnificent Bastard, though. Guy's smooth. Not like Viktor or that other one.

Still digging new Juliette-which is not to say I like the character's actions, per se, but I think she's a badass and entertaining to watch. Tulloch is doing a great job. And from what I understand, it seemed like very few people actually liked her before, anyway. (Someone on the Narm section here pointed out a situation involving her actress' lazy eye. You stay classy, TV Tropes)

She is a victim who is using her new strength to victimize others and lash out. Its a very realistic response. And still way better than her 'just' being Nick's girlfriend. And going by the previews for the next episode, its clear she has just as much illwill for herself (if not more) than she does for anybody else.

Adalind-yeah, she's in a bad way. But as she reminded Nick, if they hadn't kidnapped her baby, she wouldn't have de-Grimmed him via shapeshiftrape. (Rapeshifting?)-in other words, the action's she's taking seem to h ave a meaning, and purpose. I also like that Nick didn't just soften at the sight of her pregnant baby, and recoiled from her. One hopes he wouldn't have the same reaction if Juliette was pregnant with his kid.

edited 25th Apr '15 3:01:26 PM by ArthurEld

Juliette is Nick's boyfriend? That's news to me!

Except Kenneth just picked up someone else's game with the piece conveniently lined up for him. At least the first guy actually outplayed them and would have won if it wasn't for Zombie Nick.

As for Juliet, the current setup hasn't really done much. While she isn't Nick's go-to like Monroe or Rosalee, she has been more than Nick's girlfriend in my opinion and shown herself to be an actual member of the team. Plus once again she still angst source for Nick, but now she's currently the direct cause.

Still loving the Jujubeast stuff-and apart from several people on this site, I seem not to be alone. Its her best work on the show, and its pushing Giuntoli to be better too.

Speaking of him, Season 1 and 2 Nick looks so different from current despite being only a few years apart. I found it funny.

Also, in the trailer for this episode, Nick's relief/surprise/joy on seeing Trubel-I found it wonderful.

That said, I'm almost 90% positive Juliette is gonna die. Somebody's gonna die, I'm pretty sure of that. It might be Jack who kills Juliette-and of course the obvious suspect for Jack is Sean.

New Juliette is an imposter. Real Juliette is actually away visiting family and will return and kick the crap out of New Juliette for ruining her reputation.

Said it before and I'll say it again. Fuck New Juliette. Mr Neck needs a visit from Mr Axe, courtesy of a Grimm.

edited 8th May '15 5:54:03 PM by Eagal

I'm actually backing down from my prediction that Jujubeast dies. If she goes to meet the King, she's gotta be away from the main action.

Plus, while I'm by no means defending her, I find her actions highly entertaining. As do, according to twitter, a lot of her costars.

Seeing Claire Coffee call all Hexenbiests "sloots" almost makes up for how tonight's episode ended. I...did not enjoy that. I can't even make a joke reference to Seven.

I think that was one of the darkest callbacks in the show.

Kenneth got owned. Bit off more than he could chew.

At least the good guys won, I think.

The FBI agent at the end-she showed before, i think like way at the beginning of the season, but I can't remember exactly.

Overall, I liked the finale-even Hank and Wu got to be badass for a bit. And Bud is just wonderfully awkward.

Figures crossed Trubel becomes a regular next season.

Chavez, she showed at the first episode of the season. If memory serves she was trying to recruit Trubel for something and doesn't know Nick is a Grimm.

Ding dong, the witch is dead. Season 5 started yesterday. Thoughts?

Did they leave the story with Juliette evil and apparently dead (I have avoided watching the season finale)? Because in this case...eh...I most likely won't watch anymore. I miss the show from the first season.

Juliette is presumed dead but they Never Found the Body. After she got crossbowed by Trubel, two more secret organizations showed up, one trying to stop the end of the world and one that's probably trying to start it. Trubel got kidnapped by the first one. They also knocked Nick out and took Juliette's body and Nick's mom's head.

Well...I stopped watching because I got tired of the show constantly abusing Juliette. Should that change, drop me a line, I might (big might) give it a second shot.

Same. I was going to start the 4th season (We're behind in Australia) but after hearing that spoiler I just couldn't be bothered.

And it's a shame too cause I've heard good things about Wu in S4.

Never had much use for Juliette to begin with and I LOATHED New Juliette, so it's all good on my end.

Though I must say the whole "Juliette's a Hexenbiest" plotline puts me in mind of Put on a Bus to Hell. :hmm

It would be a lie to claim that Juliette was my favourite character. But it was really off-putting to see her getting abused for full two seasons.

I liked the show the best when it was just the team (including Juliette), sitting down, having a meal and discussing a problem. I neither needed nor wanted all the fake drama.

That and they have stopped adapting fairy tales after the second season...and those episodes were always my favourites. I especially liked their take on the Pied Piper and Rapunzel.