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blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#4526: Jul 3rd 2015 at 10:04:35 AM

Shiny new X-wings!

and shiny new pilots!

And shiny new Stormtroopers!

Will they carry on the tradition? Or will they receive better training from here on out?

And a shiny new page!

edited 3rd Jul '15 10:05:31 AM by blkwhtrbbt

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4527: Jul 3rd 2015 at 10:06:31 AM

I remember an article thingy about how the Stormtroopers let Luke and the others go in A New Hope.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4528: Jul 3rd 2015 at 10:16:43 AM

Here.

The best Vader scene I have ever... seen, is when he comes into his own as a Dark Lord of the Sith and brutally kills Roan Shryne while using Dun Moch to break his will.

edited 3rd Jul '15 10:17:52 AM by Cruherrx

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#4529: Jul 3rd 2015 at 10:55:30 AM

[up] That specific instance of Vader being Vader isn't canon anymore, so yeah.

Also, I disagree. Even if Luke played the trope straight, he'd be a more compassionate and effective Chosen One than Anakin.

@unnoun: Vader finding out that Luke is his son in the Darth Vader comic gives me chills too. Holy shit, that entire sequence is so good.

edited 3rd Jul '15 10:56:18 AM by higherbrainpattern

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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4531: Jul 3rd 2015 at 12:18:14 PM

[up][up] Except Luke as the chosen one ruins the idea that he's just a kid from a simple farm that defies all odds and saves the galaxy through his compassion. If he did all that whilst being the chosen one, then his accomplishments fall on destiny rather than himself... when the point of him not going along with what Obi-Wan and Yoda wanted was him doing what he thought was right.

Anakin, conversely, despite being far more special that Luke, turned out to be a failure because he lacked the humility Luke had. Not the compassion, but the humility. Anakin thought he could use the force as a tool to keep those he couldn't let go alive—that's pretty extreme arrogance on his part, due in no small part to him being told since he was 9 that he was hot shit and Force Jesus.

And, again, I don't care what Disney says is canon when they're putting out inferior content. Do note how I always make note of "in the old EU, X," because while I don't give a shit about the weaker stories told in the new canon, I still think it necessary to make a distinction so as to not confuse people.

edited 3rd Jul '15 12:21:07 PM by Cruherrx

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4532: Jul 3rd 2015 at 12:27:53 PM

I think the Vader comics are a much better story than anything you've quoted.

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#4533: Jul 3rd 2015 at 12:56:17 PM

I remember an article thingy about how the Stormtroopers let Luke and the others go in A New Hope.
Was it the Cracked article "The Biggest Plot Hole in Star Wars: Solved" (or something to that effect)? I really liked the hypothesis in that article, because I greatly prefer psychological explanations over technobabble ones when filling in plot holes. (That's why, no matter what the EU says, my headcanon is that "It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs" was just Han trying to fool Luke and Obi-wan with impressive-sounding nonsense.) But unfortunately, the psychology paper that was the lynchpin of their argument may not hold water, since it was based on data from World War One.

I didn't write any of that.
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#4534: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:04:48 PM

Most of the new Star Wars content is already miles better than the vast majority of the dreg that was the old Star Wars EU. Seriously, the Darth Vader comic is great, and so is the Star Wars Princess Leia miniseries, the Star Wars comic is pretty decent, most of the novels are decent IMO as well, especially Tarkin. And Star Wars Rebels is getting rave reviews from both fans and reviewers, so.

Seriously, all the new canon needs to do is re-establish certain concepts and characters from The Thrawn trilogy and I'd give it an A++

edited 3rd Jul '15 1:06:15 PM by higherbrainpattern

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4535: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:23:13 PM

[up]x3, I'll take your opinion more seriously after you've actually read the novel. smile

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4536: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:24:00 PM

Just saying that the parts you thought were supposed to be convincing weren't.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#4537: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:25:24 PM

@unnoun: Cruherrx likes to overhype Dark Lord: Rise of Darth Vader. it's an okay novel, but he really loves it.

edited 3rd Jul '15 1:26:24 PM by higherbrainpattern

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4538: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:27:28 PM

Also, I could cherry pick the best EU stories and they far outnumber and outscore the current canon. It's okay if you like the new canon more or whatever, but don't pretend the old EU was shit.

Don't be so hyper defensive. My opinions shouldn't rustle your jimmies this much. I know I'm really cool, and you all look up to me, but I'm still just one man.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#4539: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:30:32 PM

The New Jedi Order, Legacy of the Force, Republic Commando, any number of novels beyond those that I didn't mention: all bad. The Thrawn trilogy is great, 10/10, would read forever, and I love the KOTOR games. Other than those two things, the EU is vastly forgettable.

And I don't really care about your opinions, I'm just irritated by the way you constantly talking over other people in this thread and focus on Vader all the damn time. You're not the authority on Vader.

edited 3rd Jul '15 1:35:52 PM by higherbrainpattern

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4540: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:32:40 PM

>authority on Vader

No, I like continuity. And when writers can't write Vader and Sidious with the same elegance they're written in the movies, or even in the canon novels, then I'll call bullshit.

Edit for your edit: And more Vader is more better. Let's talk about Vader. I think he's a pretty cool guy. smile

edited 3rd Jul '15 1:36:45 PM by Cruherrx

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#4541: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:36:10 PM

[lol]

Nah, I'm sick of Vader. He can fuck right off for the time being.

edited 3rd Jul '15 1:37:43 PM by higherbrainpattern

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#4542: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:39:06 PM

I don't think he's physically capable of that anymore. Between that clunky suit he can't take off and the burning on Mustafar, it would probably be an awkward situation for Vader and his partner.

edited 3rd Jul '15 1:39:32 PM by Cruherrx

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BBrown052 Since: May, 2012
#4543: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:39:51 PM

"Nah, I'm sick of Vader. He can fuck right off for the time being."

This times 10.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#4544: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:44:31 PM

So according to Nolan North, the Visceral Studios Star Wars game is going to be similar to Uncharted or Star Wars 1313 in terms of gameplay. I'm really curious about it now.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4545: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:45:45 PM

They should just make Star Wars Mass Effect (2 or 3, I should specify) or Star Wars Skyrim.

edited 3rd Jul '15 1:46:13 PM by Cruherrx

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#4546: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:46:59 PM

They already did a Star Wars Mass Effect. It's called Knights of the Old Republic.

But they could always remake/reboot KOTOR for the current-gen platforms, yeah.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4547: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:48:03 PM

I hated KOTOR's interface. Mass Effect 2 and 3 are totally different, and that's what I'd want a Star Wars game to be like.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#4548: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:59:22 PM

Are you all fighting over something 100% subjective like what books are good or bad? Don't trash talk people for liking different books from you.

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#4549: Jul 3rd 2015 at 2:17:13 PM

The best Star Wars movie is the one where Darth Vader only has 12 minutes of screen time. tongue

I didn't write any of that.

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