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Dragonzordasaurus Joining the Team.doc Since: Jan, 2011
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#1: Dec 13th 2011 at 5:45:01 PM

a male character being driven crazy by something and killing everyone?

You know, like a fanfic based off of Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow's alternate ending or something.

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CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit Since: May, 2009
#2: Dec 13th 2011 at 5:47:12 PM

Nobody cares about originality, only how well you handle what you have. How original you are should mean nothing to you as a writer, because literally everything under the sun has been done before.

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Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Dec 13th 2011 at 5:47:15 PM

No. But that doesn't mean you should toss the idea.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4: Dec 13th 2011 at 5:51:40 PM

'Your manuscript is both good and original; but the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good.'

Don't get overly focused on being "original". Some things may have been done again and again but there are always ways to turn what was done into something original.

edited 13th Dec '11 5:51:57 PM by MajorTom

USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#5: Dec 13th 2011 at 6:01:46 PM

  • 1) If you have to ask the question...
  • 2) You just cited something you could base it off of. That should by its nature tip you off that it isn't original if it's been done before...

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#6: Dec 13th 2011 at 6:03:07 PM

Well, considering what you've said about your work, it would at least make it less repetitive.

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Dragonzordasaurus Joining the Team.doc Since: Jan, 2011
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#7: Dec 13th 2011 at 6:15:43 PM

Based on what you guys said, I guess I'll just play it safe and stick to stories about young girls going crazy and killing everyone. It's not like I have anything to lo-...

Well, considering what you've said about your work, it would at least make it less repetitive.
oh god dammit.

edited 13th Dec '11 6:16:31 PM by Dragonzordasaurus

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kashchei Since: May, 2010
#8: Dec 13th 2011 at 6:53:38 PM

Dragon, have you considered a career as a screenwriter for B horror movies?

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annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#9: Dec 13th 2011 at 7:05:02 PM

Sex and/or gender don't matter.

Like at all.

It isn't the sex of your character that's the problem, dude.

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#10: Dec 13th 2011 at 7:08:15 PM

...wait a minute...

~steps out of thread~

Edit:

~steps back into thread~

You are the one who made the "Is this rape?" thread.

Now this ([up]) makes sense...

edited 13th Dec '11 7:13:11 PM by USAF713

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kashchei Since: May, 2010
#11: Dec 13th 2011 at 7:22:11 PM

"Sex and/or gender don't matter."

In the context of the OP's question, sure, but how would you defend this argument if we were talking about a story dealing with, say, workplace sexual harassment or unplanned pregnancy?

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#12: Dec 13th 2011 at 7:23:47 PM

If the main character of a story focusing on being an unplanned pregnancy is a male, it should be really awkward...

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Dragonzordasaurus Joining the Team.doc Since: Jan, 2011
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#13: Dec 13th 2011 at 8:57:52 PM

Dragon, have you considered a career as a screenwriter for B horror movies?
You're not the first person who's compared me to that style of writing.

You are the one who made the "Is this rape?" thread.
Except no one becomes evil/crazy in that story. Bad example.

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kashchei Since: May, 2010
#14: Dec 13th 2011 at 9:18:24 PM

If you're thirsting for more, uh, original feedback, I'd offer the suggestion of finding another hobby altogether. Writing for yourself is alright, but it seems that you are actually looking for an audience; in which case, either make your work palatable, or don't expect a readership at all.

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annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#16: Dec 13th 2011 at 9:21:13 PM

Kash: In the latter example, sure, because it fails basic biology, but there is nothing impossible or even improbable about a man being sexually harassed by a woman at the workplace so it boggles me that you'd bring it up. In most contexts, sex and gender affect the relationship between the character and the world, and the character himself only indirectly as a result of the world around him. Or her.

EDIT: rhino you forgot the italics — there's a subtle semantic difference between "male character" and "male character".

edited 13th Dec '11 9:27:35 PM by annebeeche

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kashchei Since: May, 2010
#17: Dec 13th 2011 at 9:25:56 PM

No, I'm not calling sexual harassment of a man impossible. Rather, it triggers different issues than the sexual harassment of a woman, which is common and, in certain positions and communities, expected.

Unless you're writing about a world in which gender roles are absent, you cannot take men and women as social equals whose actions and reactions are entirely divorced from the ideologies of the superstructure. A bisexual man, for example, is going to have a far shittier time finding acceptance than a bisexual woman; and a woman who abandons her child will be much less sympathetic than a man would be, because fathers walking out has been normalized in many societies.

edited 13th Dec '11 9:26:42 PM by kashchei

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#18: Dec 13th 2011 at 9:29:16 PM

Except no one becomes evil/crazy in that story. Bad example.

Yes, but it explains why this seems familiar, and why you'd think such a thing is original.

Superficial differences aren't going to make this... marginally workable...

You need to get something with literary merit to hold together... whatever it is you're going for here.

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annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#19: Dec 13th 2011 at 9:31:34 PM

Kashchei:

In most contexts, sex and gender affect the relationship between the character and the world

you are describing this.

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kashchei Since: May, 2010
#20: Dec 13th 2011 at 9:35:39 PM

I know what I'm describing. That statement of yours is, however, inconsistent with saying that sex and gender do not matter.

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annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#21: Dec 13th 2011 at 9:37:29 PM

Yeah, it's a statement that I take back. Another symptom of my chronic inability to explain myself.

I do believe that it shouldn't matter though, which is completely different.

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kashchei Since: May, 2010
#22: Dec 13th 2011 at 9:38:20 PM

Ja, I can get behind that.

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Scherzo09 Revy Gonna Give It To Ya from Roanapur Since: Jul, 2010
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#23: Dec 13th 2011 at 10:06:38 PM

Dude, just write what you think makes a good story. That's all that really matters in the end.

edited 13th Dec '11 10:11:16 PM by Scherzo09

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#24: Dec 13th 2011 at 10:08:49 PM

...I don't know that that's the best advice to give in this context...

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Scherzo09 Revy Gonna Give It To Ya from Roanapur Since: Jul, 2010
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#25: Dec 13th 2011 at 10:12:39 PM

[up]Well I just think its absurd for a writer to ask if his premise is good enough. That's something the writer needs to decide for himself.

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