The Last of Us

Though I looked at the Wikipedia page and it seems confirmed that Ellie is the main protagonist this time.

What with her being in the center of the trailer and Joel being off-screen it seems like a safe bet.

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!

I agree with this sentiment. You can do more with Ellie that you could Joel, largely because the first game was as much about raising her as it was about escorting her. Now we can see her on her own, like Clementine in The Walking Dead.

I don't think she'll be on her own. The game is too steeped in that... I can't think of the phrase. It's too much about being with another character. I'm not sure I can see Joel in that 'supporting' role though. It might be a new character traveling with Ellie. Or she might actually be on her own, but I consider it unlikely, or at least temporary. Even the bits in the first game when you're on your own, it' always about finding your way back to the other character, or doing something to help them.

I agree that Ellie should be the main character in the sequel. The Last Of Us was largely Joel's story and it was great, but it told just about all one reasonably could with him. His story was fantastic and I'm glad to have experienced it, but I just don't see him having a ton of mileage left as a protagonist.

edited 22nd May '17 6:48:24 PM by TobiasDrake

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Also agreeing with everyone else that I'm glad Ellie is protagonist this time around.

...Wait. Garbage, erm, Ellie is the protagonist? Since when?

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It's not real evidence just convenient top billing, but given that the trailer focuses on Ellie, and there's no real reason not to, it's pretty easy to assume that she is.

Also.

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!

....yikes.

edited 30th Oct '17 9:56:52 AM by LE0Night

Shattering bones presented as a "FUCK YEAH!" moment.

Way to stay classy. Not tone deaf at all with what's going on in the world.

Torture porn is "sexy", according to Sony.

edited 30th Oct '17 10:01:30 AM by AnotherGuy

Oh, this is delicious.

Yep. We don't glorify violence!

edited 30th Oct '17 10:33:41 AM by AnotherGuy

The trailer I saw presented it as a Kick the Dog moment. It was disturbing, but I didn't see them "glorify" anything.

No. Just... no.

What is the purpose of a trailer? To highlight what you're selling from the game.

Let's compare with these trailer:

This is a game with brutal violence. But the trailer isn't selling the violence. It's selling the setting and group dynamics.

Episode 2 infamously had some REALLY brutal violence, such as hacking someone's leg off.

The Last of Us 2 trailer is selling the violence and glorifying it. It's telling you to buy the game to see the violence.

Big fucking difference.

And the Last of Us pt 2's trailer isn't selling the setting and characters? It's explaining that there are violent bandit killers in the setting (which there always were) and that there's also a religious cult based on the infected we haven't seen before.

How? Because you say it is?

Seriously. All the violence in that trailer was portrayed as either torture or killing people to survive. There is nothing glorious about that.

Yeah, i’m Not seeing anything being glorified here.

I think you might have you priorities about the game out of whack, Another Guy.

Watch Symphogear

You want glorified violence, you look at the way gore is treated in a DOOM title. The way the camera hovers in this trailer is much more about making the audience squeamish and unnerved. There's a distance from the impact that makes us feel like we are there, watching, instead of feeling. The audience is there and does nothing but look on at the pain.

Despite my screen-name, ranting to you about One Piece is not my top priority.

I didn't see violence being glorified either. It's not like anyone could really cheer on a religious cult torturing two girls before getting their unceremonious demise. Honestly I am just really curious about what stake these folks alongside Elle have in this. It's pretty interesting how they thought she was one of them and how they call the clickers demons.

Yeah, I found nothing 'glorified' about that, it was just brutal and unpleasant and shows the cruelty on the part of the perpetrators.

That aside, I found the trailer rather underwhelming. Yeah, it's pretty, and yeah, there's a little bit of insight into new characters and groups, but nothing to get me excited.

I'm pretty sure that's not Ellie in the trailer.

edited 30th Oct '17 3:45:11 PM by artfulscruff

Odd. I thought it was just the rain that made Ellie look a bit different, but I suppose it could be another character. Whomever it is though, I think the implication was that they were pregnant, since the other woman working for the Fireflies was acting like she was about to disembowel her stomach.

We see a shot of some corpses hanging that were disemboweled too, so I don't think so.

Also, I don't think those were Fireflies. I don't think the Fireflies were ever portrayed as a cult.

edited 30th Oct '17 4:10:35 PM by xanderiskander

I think the mystery woman is a totally different character than Ellie. She has a different voice actress and her name was left out of a character list Naughty Dog tweeted out. I suspect it's Anna, Ellie's supposedly dead mom.

edited 30th Oct '17 4:11:34 PM by caivu

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Yeah, I was thinking it was some post-apocalyptic cult. Someone in the Facebook comments on the post where I saw the video figured that they were going to cut the first woman's stomach open because she was pregnant and they thought that humans were doomed and so shouldn't be making more humans.

Only problem with that is that the first victim we see hanging is clearly a man. The whole hanging and disendowment thing is pretty excessive and sadistic, so the vibes I get is that these people are not to be taken lightly and might be major antagonists.

Could be a pregnancy block. The woman and man are punished for procreating at all. The woman for carrying and the man for impregnating.

It's possible. There's a third body hanging behind the man but the lighting isn't great so you only see the feet. It looks like these guys have themselves a lynching tree setup.

I also noticed the leader of this bunch of bad people had scars on her cheek that looked like a Glasgow Grin but I was watching on my phone so it might have been a trick of the lesser resolution.

edited 31st Oct '17 12:35:25 AM by Shaoken