The last time this came up didn't the area south of the St. Lawrence, which IIRC is heavily anglophone and the First Nations in Quebec threaten their own secession bids because they both wanted to stay in Canada?
Trump delenda estPlus there's a ton of immigrants who wanted to immigrate to Canada, not Free Quebec, and they can raise a stink in Montreal and Ville du Quebec.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.Plus there are many First Nations' groups who aren't too keen in being controlled by Quebec; likely because their rights will get trampled on in the name of the French language and xenophobia.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.basically, quebec secedes, then a whole lot of bits of quebec will secede from it.
though really, the polls show something like 20-30% more in favor of staying than seceding. That's a lot of people to win over.
I'm baaaaaaackAnd you can bet if the PQ wins a majority that whoever is in control of Ottawa will go on PR blitz.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.What does the Canadian constitution say about seccession? Presumably Ottawa would have to grant permission for a Quebexit?
Schild und Schwert der ParteiIt's flat out illegal by Canadian and international law for Quebec to secede unilaterally. There's no mechanism for it to happen. However, if Quebec took a referendum and a majority of the people were in favor of secession "negotiations would be possible".
There would probably have to be a vote by the rest of the country at the least.
edited 11th Feb '14 3:53:59 AM by Zendervai
Not Three Laws compliant.And it really pisses off the rest of the country whenever Quebec Succession comes up.
Basically it doesn't say anything either way but the Supreme Court has ruled that Quebec can't unilaterally separate without hammering out the details with Ottawa. Though it would set a really bad precedent (and might go somewhere truly nasty) if we ignored a fair vote in favor of succession.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Lac-Megantic lawsuit targets Ottawa for alleged failure to sanction railway
For those of you with short memory, Lac-Megantic is the small city in Quebec that got devastated by a derailing train carrying tons of volatile and chemical material.
I hope they succeed but something tells me they will, at best, get an out of court settlement with a media gag...
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.That's what I was thinking, really.
At the very least, I hope the administration in Ottawa gets splashed, that whole ordeal sounds like a major oversight/proof of incompetency.
edited 14th Feb '14 8:05:03 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016The Liberals have passed a party policy resolution to implement Basic Annual Income at their party convention in Montreal. If it wasn't because of TV Tropes I wouldn't have known anything about what they were talking about but also I am surprised a major party chose to adopt this as policy. Now fingers cross they'll actually run with it. Which contrasts with this article about the government dismissing a report about the lack of government aid for middle income families.
edited 24th Feb '14 2:44:34 AM by latenight
Whoah, seriously? I didn't expect them to run to the left of the NDP!
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.A surprise for sure and lots of hurdles, before it's implemented throughout the country there'll be a pilot program. So hopefully the people who spearheaded this at the convention can keep momentum going.
edited 24th Feb '14 10:43:54 AM by latenight
Apparently this was tried in the late 70s in Manitoba. It was a success, but the Conservatives sort of sat on the results for 30 years.
Not Three Laws compliant.If Harper can score points by giving people 1 or 2% off their taxes; this should get the Liberals major support. If it isn't completely mauled by the Tory libel machine.
edited 24th Feb '14 12:23:58 PM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.The very fact that it's a Liberal idea means that there's an enormous bloc in Alberta who will vote against it and anyone pushing it, for that reason alone.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.Alberta is a lost cause anyway, the Liberals need to focus on Quebec, Ontario and parts of BC that they lost last time.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.And compete with the NDP for the left vote? Push everywhere. Besides, Western resentment is born from feeling neglected and dictated to by Easterners. Never mind that a region that has a tiny fraction of the country's population isn't going to have as much representation as the country's population centres...
That said, in the case of Alberta, you're probably right. The NDP have a seat in Edmonton and are better suited to make inroads in that province than the Liberals.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.Surprisingly the latest Ipsos poll shows that Albertans are much more receptive to the Liberals than the rest of Western Canada.
Huh, didn't realize Atlantic Canada was so staunchly Liberal.
Basic view in Atlantic Canada is that the Tories screw us constantly and the Liberals are the only ones who can stop them. Layton changed that a little but then he died and Mulcair ain`t Layton.
edited 25th Feb '14 3:05:24 PM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
I have no idea, but they've been threatening it constantly for decades now.
One of the previous presidents of France basically said "Well we ain't taking them back" a while back as well.
Not Three Laws compliant.