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Deadlock Clock: Feb 2nd 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#26: Dec 3rd 2011 at 3:21:00 PM

The Frollo picture doesn't establish how a gargoyle breaking on him is particularly karmic.

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#27: Dec 3rd 2011 at 5:48:03 PM

[up] I would have figured his pose and facial expression made clear that he had intended to murder the other character in the pic; that the gargoyle he stood on to do so broke is very obviously karmic.

EDITED IN: Come to think of it, the pose could be further improved yet...


edited 3rd Dec '11 5:56:26 PM by HiddenFacedMatt

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#28: Dec 3rd 2011 at 5:52:10 PM

I'm not great with the Frollo pic because whilst yeah he looks like the Big Bad of the film, him falling due to broken gargoyle buttress won't mean much, karmic or otherwise. Why is it karmic? Show me that it is rather than just being crummy misfortune.

edited 3rd Dec '11 5:56:08 PM by treelo

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#30: Dec 4th 2011 at 7:00:59 AM

Hitler's double according to file name..

edited 4th Dec '11 7:10:48 AM by Ultimatum

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treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#31: Dec 4th 2011 at 7:24:21 AM

It's kinda karmic in a "don't double for Hitler, you'll die because of him" sense.

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#32: Dec 4th 2011 at 8:14:38 PM

I don't understand how that Hitler pic relates at all.

FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#33: Dec 4th 2011 at 8:17:27 PM

[up][up][up][up] I don't get it. What is it with me not understanding images for this trope?

[down] I still don't get it! Seriously, what is wrong with me?

edited 4th Dec '11 8:30:28 PM by FinalStarman

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20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#34: Dec 4th 2011 at 8:26:16 PM

[up]I guess it might have something to do with how the first victims of the Holocaust were murdered before they came up with the gas chambers. If I'm right, it's definitely stretching it.

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#36: Jan 30th 2012 at 1:37:53 PM

Why is it karmic? Show me that it is rather than just being crummy misfortune.
He is standing with a sword in his hand and an evil-looking facial expression (I have different versions with different facial expressions, if that helps) while his helpless victim is also in the image. That is certainly more indicative than clothing that may or may not be immediately recognizable as the KKK outfit. (Not to mention doesn't rely on agreeing that involvement in the KKK implies deserving to die.)

edited 30th Jan '12 1:40:00 PM by HiddenFacedMatt

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FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#37: Jan 30th 2012 at 1:49:36 PM

No further change needed. Really the old dimensions were the only problem. I just fail everything forever. smile

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edited 30th Jan '12 1:50:03 PM by FinalStarman

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#38: Jan 30th 2012 at 11:07:07 PM

Does the trope really require "deserves to die"? I thought it was just "villain gets a Death by Irony". Sure, Gaston was a narcissistic Jerkass and tried to get Maurice thrown in an asylum, but that's not exactly murder, and anyway he might have planned to let him out later. Whipping up the mob to go after beast is pretty bad, but only because we the viewers know he's not an evil monster. Maybe the guy just thought this was supposed to be a monster movie!

I digress.

Anyway, the cross-burning/self-immolation image is more concise and arguably funnier than these two-panel Disney villain deals. And as I've just demonstrated, "he deserved it" is a pretty lofty and ambiguous standard to hold these things to.

abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#39: Jan 31st 2012 at 12:36:01 AM

[up] Yeah, I think a lot of people are misunderstanding this trope.

This isn't "Bad guy gets what they deserve for being evil." This trope is "Bad guy accidentally kills himself as a direct result of his actions."

The only reason the Klansmen image is an example is because you're meant to assume that he was trying to light the cross, but ended up lighting himself instead. It doesn't matter whether he deserved to be burned alive or not. What matters is that he was trying to do something nefarious, and it backfired on him.

I was going to suggest this, but it doesn't look you could edit it in a way that would work.

edited 31st Jan '12 12:38:15 AM by abk0100

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#41: Feb 3rd 2012 at 5:26:34 AM

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