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Dragonzordasaurus Joining the Team.doc Since: Jan, 2011
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#1: Nov 20th 2011 at 11:19:52 AM

To summarize:

- Cyberpunk anime spy girl snoops around a criminal base investigating a kidnapping / brainwashing conspiracy

- Ironically gets caught and put through brainwashing thingamabob herself

- Follows her trainer's orders without question and cheerfully murders the next cyberpunk anime spy girl who comes along to rescue her (who may or may not be her lesbian lover) using her own deadly mindhacking powers

- Character in question looks something like this

What do you think?

edited 20th Nov '11 2:06:51 PM by Dragonzordasaurus

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Takwin Polite smartass. from R'lyeh Since: Feb, 2010
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#2: Nov 20th 2011 at 11:42:55 AM

Well, it all depends on how hard your sci-fi is and how sympathetic you want this character to be. Is she conscious of trying to murder her lover? If so, then she's in an 'And I Must Scream' situation. If not, she's more of a People Puppet.

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HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
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#3: Nov 20th 2011 at 11:44:59 AM

Also depends on the outcome you want and how you plan on getting to it. Does she ever recover? Who is supposed to save her? Does she get her memory back, and if so, how? Etc.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
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#4: Nov 20th 2011 at 12:47:51 PM

Her original identity isn't aware of her current actions because her original identity was effectively destroyed.

There's no way to reverse the effect.

She's gone and isn't coming back.

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Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#5: Nov 20th 2011 at 1:14:40 PM

What is her purpose in this story?

That's the only way we can tell you if you went overboard or not.

What's precedent ever done for us?
Dragonzordasaurus Joining the Team.doc Since: Jan, 2011
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#6: Nov 20th 2011 at 1:46:37 PM

Her purpose in the story is to get brainwashed and kill the other girl for cheap superficial tragedy and drama, basically.

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HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
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#7: Nov 20th 2011 at 1:56:08 PM

If that's her purpose, then, well, no. She's doing exactly what she's supposed to do, with no sign of coming back. What's the problem again?

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
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#8: Nov 20th 2011 at 2:11:45 PM

If I had to put it in words, I suppose I'm wondering if I'm being too cheap.

edited 20th Nov '11 3:43:43 PM by Dragonzordasaurus

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HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
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#9: Nov 20th 2011 at 2:17:48 PM

What was the character's importance before the scrambling?

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
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#10: Nov 20th 2011 at 2:28:54 PM

I have to ask, what does her personal appearance possibly have to do with any of this?

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#11: Nov 20th 2011 at 2:30:50 PM

I assume we were meant to take from the picture that she was a sweet and innocent and stuff girl before the brainwashing.

edited 20th Nov '11 2:46:19 PM by Dealan

HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#12: Nov 20th 2011 at 2:43:12 PM

That hair is unfeasible.

But, err, anyway.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
Dragonzordasaurus Joining the Team.doc Since: Jan, 2011
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#13: Nov 20th 2011 at 3:20:24 PM

What was the character's importance before the scrambling?
One of the lead heroines. In the official canon, she goes rogue along with her might-be-a-lesbian partner after the two discover the spy organization they work for is all fascist and evil and needs to be taken down.

Granted, the mind scrambling process has simply turned her against the group she would have eventually rebelled against anyway, but now she's employed by equally evil scum and isn't exactly rebelling for the best intentions.

I have to ask, what does her personal appearance possibly have to do with any of this?
Uh... world building.

edited 20th Nov '11 3:41:22 PM by Dragonzordasaurus

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#14: Nov 21st 2011 at 12:37:19 PM

OOPS missed one of the questions.

That hair is unfeasible.
Yeah, totally. I mean, even I'm not sure how her captors managed to get the mindrape helmet to fit on her with her princess curl taking up half of her head.

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loganlocksley Occasionally Smart from On the ceiling Since: Oct, 2011
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#15: Nov 21st 2011 at 1:09:07 PM

To be honest, it doesn't really sound like her brain was scrambled at all. More like deleted. Just sayin'. Either way, it's tragic. Is she part of a larger story or is it just about her killing her potential rescuer?

He's like fire and ice and rage. He's ancient and forever. He burns at the centre of time. Rory punched him in the face.
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#16: Nov 21st 2011 at 1:48:50 PM

Well, she remembers everything pre-brainwashing, so nothing was deleted from her mind. She just has a completely different personality now.

And the story is just about her killing her potential rescuer. The brainwashing has effectively prevented the original larger story from ever happening.

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loganlocksley Occasionally Smart from On the ceiling Since: Oct, 2011
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#17: Nov 21st 2011 at 1:51:49 PM

Well that kinda...sucks. For the characters, I mean. It's sad.

I think it might be more interesting (to me personally anyways) if she ended up with a split personality or something.

He's like fire and ice and rage. He's ancient and forever. He burns at the centre of time. Rory punched him in the face.
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#18: Nov 21st 2011 at 2:17:05 PM

What if I told you there was an alternate version where she (being all evil and sadistic now) decides to brainwash her potential rescuer into joining her new pals so they can be ambiguously lesbian partners again?

Would that make it more depressing, or less depressing?

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loganlocksley Occasionally Smart from On the ceiling Since: Oct, 2011
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#19: Nov 21st 2011 at 2:34:02 PM

More depressing and less defiance of expectations. They just live happily evilly ever after...I'd go with the first depressing ending, actually. Depressing stories can be a lot more powerful than stories with happy endings, if done properly.

He's like fire and ice and rage. He's ancient and forever. He burns at the centre of time. Rory punched him in the face.
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#20: Nov 21st 2011 at 3:05:11 PM

Was this done properly?

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loganlocksley Occasionally Smart from On the ceiling Since: Oct, 2011
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#21: Nov 21st 2011 at 3:18:50 PM

I'm not familiar with the source material, so I'm not sure I can really say, but it seemed to be alright for a dark death fic, if a little abrupt. The abruptness actually helps in a way, though, since it makes her actions seem even more cold and matter-of-fact, like she just doesn't care (because she doesn't.)

I usually avoid dark death fics, but that one seemed to be handled well. Left me feeling cold, which I suppose was the point.

He's like fire and ice and rage. He's ancient and forever. He burns at the centre of time. Rory punched him in the face.
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