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GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#1026: Dec 13th 2011 at 2:46:20 PM

^^ All that means is that there is a problem that needs to be solved.

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#1027: Dec 13th 2011 at 2:52:31 PM

And the best solution is fading.

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#1028: Dec 13th 2011 at 3:05:07 PM

I'm not sure what you mean by that. The Occupy movement never "solved" any of the issues and was not going to. The "solution" it generaly advocats is "better regulation and tax codes" which can only be done through the government. That is why I say we should see what happens over the next couple of months before declaring whether it failed, succeded, or even completely went away.

The verry fact that news articles are still being writen about it on a regular basis proves that it has at least some staying power.

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#1029: Dec 13th 2011 at 3:33:30 PM

Okay the best solution at getting people aware is fading.

The moment the media stops covering it, the moment people stop caring.

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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#1032: Dec 13th 2011 at 5:27:21 PM

^ And the incredibly high unlikelihood that OWS protestors will vote.

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#1033: Dec 13th 2011 at 5:40:54 PM

Tom, we've been over this; the movement included more than just students. It included mostly middle class Americans who are now highly motivated to do anything that will improve things, including voting.

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#1034: Dec 13th 2011 at 7:57:31 PM

OWS will need to do a lot of things to remain relevant. I'm hoping that it has an effect on the primaries of both parties.

That said, this Occupy Our Homes thing is the perfect goodwill strategy. Fox can talk shit about them all winter long and there will still be voters with memories of the strangers who came in to keep the bank from taking their houses away. You can't buy PR like that.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
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#1035: Dec 14th 2011 at 1:40:24 AM

I found this video and it was basically outlying why income inequality within a society is bad.

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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#1036: Dec 14th 2011 at 4:28:36 AM

who are now highly motivated to do anything that will improve things, including voting.

I'll believe that when I'm shown election results. But historically such protestors do not vote regardless if they are young or old, black or white, middle class or dirt poor.

The election will show if I'm right or wrong, not your statements.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#1040: Dec 14th 2011 at 3:33:47 PM

@Tom: historically they dont vote because the polls tend to get rigged so theyre not allowed to.

edited 14th Dec '11 3:34:21 PM by Midgetsnowman

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#1041: Dec 14th 2011 at 3:57:16 PM

@Tom: Yes, of course protestors don't vote, which is why the Tea Party candidates were universally rejected across the board in 2010.

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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#1042: Dec 14th 2011 at 5:33:47 PM

Historically, no protests have had the demographic mix now represented by the OWS movement.

The 1960s say hi.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#1043: Dec 14th 2011 at 5:35:26 PM

And look what happened there, Tom; the Civil Rights and the Voting Act. People achieved what they wanted. Granted it wasn't perfect due to social inertia and bigots remaining bigots, but by damn those protestors achieved something.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#1044: Dec 14th 2011 at 5:41:39 PM

Oh they achieved something alright, but they didn't do it via voting. OWS is the same way with none of the strengths the Civil Rights movement had.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#1045: Dec 14th 2011 at 5:51:11 PM

They made it politically unprofitable to continue being a bigot. This also included exercising their voting rights. OWS can make it politically unprofitable to continue favoring the corporations like the government currently does.

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#1046: Dec 14th 2011 at 6:22:59 PM

[up] That's all I want, if that's a start!

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#1047: Dec 14th 2011 at 6:33:01 PM

Guys: OWS should definitely put some occupations in place to halt the Keystone pipeline construction. If the movement wants to win support in America's rural heartland, that'll be the way to do it. Someone start tweeting this.

The 1960s say hi.
This time around we've got more Latinos, more laid-off blue-collar ex-middle-class types, more veterans, and more seniors, I'd wager. I'd love to see stats on the demographics of both movements if they can be found.

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#1048: Dec 14th 2011 at 7:10:16 PM

[up] I Support. One way or another, the rich/corporates ruining my country must pay!

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#1049: Dec 14th 2011 at 7:52:43 PM

The Civil Rights Movement also took 13 years

LostAnarchist Violence Is Necessary! from Neo Arcadia Itself Since: Sep, 2011
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#1050: Dec 14th 2011 at 7:55:18 PM

[up] It was an awesome, yet challenging and painful 13 years worth fighting for (and I'm black myself, so I know). Either way, something like this that goes to war with poverty and wealth inequality needs to emerge yet again.

NOW.

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