How exactly do you write Female on Male rape?

While I'm not going to write this right now. I will probably consider doing this after my writing skills isn't entirely awful. I just want to know how would you write a rape scene whom the victim is usually seen as not being one?

What do you want to accomplish with the scene?

Unless you are a disbelief-erasing wizard, you're going to have to tie up the male or something similar.

I want the scene to be as horrific as possible.

Well, the obvious would be to make it clear that the victim didn't want it, play up their distress, maybe even some physical injury. Hard to say without more specifics.

Well technically not a rape scene but rather the reaction of everyone. The time period is the one we live in btw. Should the general consensuses be horror, mockery, disgust at the victim and or criminal?

I think one of the main things that is traumatizing especially for males being raped, is that males show an outward display of arousal, so the see their body being aroused, even though internally they are feeling aversion, revolt, shame and definitely don't want it to happen, even though their body is acting as if they do.

Females I think tend to feel more as if they've been defiled or sullied forever, and internalize it, feeling it's somehow their fault, as a response to being raped.

Males I think because of the reasons stated, feel as if they must have somehow liked it because of their body' reaction, even though they definitely didn't, so they feel like they must be horrible, perverted people and are really ashamed and afraid that they'll suddenly become rapists or like being raped.

Some people recover from trauma better than others, as well. Some people can have this kind of trauma and recover relatively well, and quickly, while others can spiral into depression. It depends on the person.

Often.

On a grand scheme where all the varying reactions of different people are averaged, I'd say that female on male rape is really no different than male on female, or the same-sex variations.

Rape is rape, people.

Women have just as much of a reason to feel this way as men, for the same reason. Female genitals can be stimulated against a woman's will too. In fact, it's very common for after being raped to feel like a slut or something similar.

Besides, not all males are capable of fighting off any threat to their persons. There are many that aren't.

And even for the ones that are, drugs, social/psychological manipulation and many other factors besides physical strength of the rapist come into play.

edited 10th Nov '11 10:00:16 PM by annebeeche

What she said.

Though, as others have said, without details we can't really offer information that could make it more possible. My first thought was that the guy was drugged or he was bound and gagged.

Social reactions are different—other people may respond like Outhouse and not believe that it wasn't consensual. (This happens all the time with male-on-female rape too, but I'd imagine it would be more common with female-on-male.)

Well, this is true with certainly.

However, just because a society refuses to believe in something does not make it false. A readership finding a perfectly valid scene in your story difficult to believe due to the social stigmas is no reason to change the scene to make it more "believable".

From a mechanical perspective, if the objective is to torture and traumatize, (nasty stuff in spoiler) using an object to anally penetrate a man (a splintery wooden broomstick would be nasty) is probably both somewhat crueler and easier than forcibly enveloping his penis. (e.g., the Abner Louima case.)

I guess it's hard to know how people would react, without the context of why this scene is occurring and who is involved.

For instance, a police officer abusing a suspected drug dealer in this manner might face widespread condemnation in most circles, but some other police might try to cover it up before it got out and defend their sister in uniform — sometimes those ungrateful citizens just don't appreciate the things the men and women of law enforcement must do to keep them safe from criminals. The sheep are afraid of the sheepdogs defending them from the wolves, but the protests of the sheep must be ignored for their own good, etc.

If this were a vengeful ex mad at her ex's leaving her/finding someone else, though, then she'd probably have approximately zero defenders.

If this were a stepmother doing this to her stepson, she would have no defenders, and also the level of vitriolic hate toward her would be far more intense than in a lot of other scenarios.

Or, if this starts off with her tricking him into thinking she'll be topping him in a consensual BDSM scene, but then eventually goes into full, to-hell-with-safewords torture mode, some people might defend her by obfuscating the consent line in bondage — sort of "isn't that what he wanted anyway? Maybe she went too far, but maybe she didn't even realize it" or something.

As with male-on-female rape, the pre-existing relationship matters to how people will perceive it. A scary guy dragging women into alleys is likely to have far fewer defenders than a man who has been on a few dates with his victim, gets her in the mood enough that they make out, and then decides that it won't stop at making out even if she wants it to.

annebeeche: You're right. I meant in-story reactions from other characters—a male character wouldn't get as much sympathy and support from friends and family as a female character might—but I was being unclear.

I tend to assume that a male rape victim might feel even more devastated and traumatised after the event than a female one (always on average, of course). Rape is never fun, but girls get warned about it from a young age, there are plenty of novels and other media about female rape victims dealing with their experiences, and so on. It's sort of normalised into a woman's life, even if it's something terrible. If you're male and get raped, you might feel that you've suffered something so completely alien and unbelievable that there's no way you can ever function normally. This might go double for a man victimised by a female rapist, since male-on-male rape at least gets some media coverage and is pretty much always seen as a horrible thing.

But then, I haven't really done any research in the matter (and I'm female), so this is all pretty much speculation.

edited 11th Nov '11 1:59:26 AM by DoktorvonEurotrash

^ On the other hand, one potential upside for a male victim is that they're sometimes exempt from Defiled Forever. There's a surprisingly common expectation that a woman who's been raped will stay traumatized forever (which may be one reason why a lot of women who've been raped don't use the word "rape" to describe the experience.) Since men aren't expected to be raped at all, a man who finds some way to overcome the trauma may not be victimized twice over.

Then again, "he wasn't really raped, because men can't get raped" is only one possible response society can give. A much nastier one is "he was raped, so he's not really a man."

As mentioned above, context would help us to give specific examples but if you want to use forms of torture as rape there was one during the vietnam war where they would stick little metal rods into captured soldiers' urethras and have prostitutes arouse them until they had an erection. Later on they moved to little glass rods instead.

If you're planning a female on male rape scene, whatever you do, whatever you do, don't portray it as morally justified.

You can mess about with other characters' reactions, but if the narration portrays it as morally justified you are doing it wrong.

I agree with Doktorvon Eurotrash. In fact, I'll show you.

"Jake...[wringing his hands]I was raped."

"WHAT!? BY WHO!?"

"Umm...y'know that...that girl from camp? Well...she kinda...made me."

"[Laughs]What!? Man, you had me scared for a sec."

"[angry]It's not funny! She...made me!"

"Oh come on, dude, guys don't get raped by chicks."

"[Fighting back tears] She...tied me up...and...[turns away]I didn't want to. I said...no."

"C'mon, you can't seriously be telling me that some girl took advantage of you. You got free pXXXX is all. And you're a virgin, so it must've been more than you could handle. I know I would've hit that and bounced."

"Fine, don't believe me."

Being a guy who was raped categorically sucks. Especially if you happen to be black or latino. Or gay.

edited 15th Nov '11 5:27:33 PM by nekomoon14

"In fact, it's very common for after being raped to feel like a slut or something similar."

Maybe on Literotica. In reality, experiencing physical pleasure is not automatically followed by feeling like a slut, nor should such an idea be proliferated as common or normal.

edited 15th Nov '11 5:39:33 PM by kashchei

Well, what I know comes from anecdotes I've heard/read from people who have been raped—some of them have said they felt no better than sluts for "letting it happen", others didn't want to talk about it at all for fear they would be judged as sluts. Not everybody feels that way, but some do and I can see why. In addition, rapists tend to use psychological abuse on their victims, and may convince the victim that they were letting it happen or they wanted it to happen, or some such.

It is also apparently common for people to "freeze up" when they're being raped, and the genitals can be stimulated and be made to "feel good" against one's will, which are other reasons to feel like you let it happen or "liked it even though you aren't supposed to".

This is one reason why I'm so vehemently opposed to the idea that if a woman wears "revealing" clothing, she's asking to be raped. No one should ever be told that they got raped because they were sluts or weaklings. Ever.

edited 15th Nov '11 6:17:30 PM by annebeeche

From a physiological standpoint, genitals are shit-for-brains stupid. They react to minimal stimulation and if it isn't painful it's good. So, even if YOU don't want it, your genitals do, because they're mindless organs.

Yes, basically.

That's why it's possible to have an erection against your will.

This post was thumped by the Shillelagh of Whackingness

The Excalibur way: Have female rapist use magic (or nanomachines) to disguise herself as the male victim's love interest to get him into position, then have her reveal her scandalous ways partway through the ordeal.

edited 16th Nov '11 11:35:26 PM by Dragonzordasaurus

THREAD HOPP

The female doesn't have to completely overpower the male. You could have the male be emotionally attached to the female (as in is actually trying to fight her off, but not to the point that he'd slug her one). After all, most rapes happen with acquaintances and even friends. Close ones, even.

Or you could, yeah, pretty much show the female's treatment of the male as absolutely beastlike. Staggering. Maul-like movements. strangling. full on hay makers and straight punches.

edited 17th Nov '11 1:40:59 AM by Schitzo