Takes the self demonstrating article too far.: Rambling Old Man Monologue

It shouldn't be that long, as any actual info is buried in the joke. We can get the point across better with just two or three rambling paragraphs, especially if there is a line in between a couple, reading "Three hours later...".

I agree. The joke gets old pretty quickly. A little bit of rambling with your suggested three hour remark gets the point across in a much better way.

The three hours later thing is cool, and maybe we could put the ones that are way too much rambling now into a footnote?

Perhaps making the "Three hours later" line into a hottip link.

edited 5th Nov '11 4:54:10 PM by DragonQuestZ

Yup, that's what I meant!

But what do others think. Should we hottip the middle paragraphs, or just cut them?

I think hot-tipping them is cool.

Not you.

I think hottipping the middle paragraphs will lose much of its humorous effect compared to simply excising them with a comment like "Three hours later". If people can see the middle paragraphs, you can't really exaggerate the amount of time they take for effect.

Self-Demonstrating?

Y'all technically have a point, but then again, I don't think anyone really needs a trope description to know what a Rambling Old Man Monologue is. The title itself is kinda self-explanatory.

edited 7th Nov '11 9:08:14 AM by Auxdarastrix

We could also do one paragraph as a Describe Topic Here. I find those are good ways to do self demonstration without making the whole article hard to read.

Well, I think that the self-demonstration is necessary to keep the page interesting. Like, otherwise, there'd not be much of anything at all on the page seeing as how the title gives it all away, and there isn't an analysis of any sort in there at the moment.

No one is suggestion total removal of the self demonstration.

Oh, I know. It's just that the length is kind of the point of the page.

No, it's the point of the trope. The point of descriptions is to tell us about tropes. Eddie and others have clearly stated that self demonstration that gets in the way of telling us about tropes is bad, and I agree.

That is part of what the "X hours later..." line is about, so we can get the length across without getting too much in the way of the information.

You know what I meant. And what information? I mean, there's nothing in there besides the demonstration. And at the end, there's even a sentence asking for an analysis, which no one provided. Maybe if there was an analysis, that'd make sense, but trimming the demonstration isn't going to help at all at this point. The trope is described by the title, so the self-demonstration demonstrates the trope.

edited 8th Nov '11 9:18:25 PM by DisasterGrind

There seems to be a bit of confusion. The main pages draw is supposed to be the examples, not the long rambling description. There's various subpages for other things.

You know, we may make a crowner. Some options I'm thinking of:

1. Keep as is (just for those that might want it)
2. Cut the middle section entirely
3. Replace the middle section with a message like "Three hours later..."
4. Make the middle section a hottip
5. Cut rambling out of the description completely
6. Make it a single paragraph as a Describe Topic Here joke

Can the rambling be moved to a self-demonstrating page?

I guess we could make that another crowner option. I'll make a crowner in a little bit.

Crowner's up.

We have the Self-Demonstrating namespace exactly for situations like this, where the self-demonstrating part is fun, but gets in the way of the page being useful.

Let's use it.

So we could do that with other pages, like Totally Radical?

Yes. That's what the Self-Demonstrating namespace is for. Just leave a pointer to the S-d page on the main page.

I think it's been enough time to call this.