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kroozer101 A stranger Since: Feb, 2011
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#1: Oct 24th 2011 at 2:21:26 PM

All you see in the picture is two aliens, standing next to each other and wearing different ribbons around their necks. No hostility is implied, no war, just... ribbons.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#2: Oct 24th 2011 at 2:27:46 PM

I agree - it does nothing to show the trope.

Motion to pull.

edited 24th Oct '11 2:27:58 PM by nrjxll

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#3: Oct 24th 2011 at 2:34:59 PM

How do you propose to illustrate the trope, then? It's not about the war or the battles, it's about the reason.

Oppose pulling.

edited 24th Oct '11 2:35:14 PM by Madrugada

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AceNoctali A lil' bentô ? from France Since: Nov, 2009
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#4: Oct 24th 2011 at 2:43:05 PM

[up] I disagree. In Silly Reason for War, there's "Silly reason", and there's "For War". The fact the guys are in hostilities must be shown to get the trope. The aliens don't look like they're arguing, fighting or warring or something like that.

If anything, that could be their respective fashion taste. Hell, they may be aliens of different gender but it doesn't show on their species, and those different scarves are gender-specific clothes in their culture, like dresses for women and trousers for men, or blue for men and pink for women.

Thus, my vote goes to pull.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#5: Oct 24th 2011 at 2:51:30 PM

Personally, I'm inclined to view this as unpicturable.

kroozer101 A stranger Since: Feb, 2011
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#6: Oct 24th 2011 at 2:57:18 PM

@ Mad: No picture is better than a bad or misleading picture.

@nrjxll: Agreed. This one's going to be tough to picture, if not impossible.

I vote to pull

edited 24th Oct '11 2:57:31 PM by kroozer101

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#7: Oct 24th 2011 at 3:01:54 PM

Let me see if I can find something better from that episode. bah the subtitles wont show up...

edited 24th Oct '11 3:08:18 PM by Raso

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plenum Videoludus ergo sum from Italy Since: Jan, 2010
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#8: Oct 24th 2011 at 4:04:16 PM

The picture is not misleading in the least, and if nothing covers the "silly" part rather well. We can do better, but for the time being it can stay up UABPIF. Also opposing the pull.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#9: Oct 24th 2011 at 4:12:13 PM

[up]Again, though, it fails to display any evidence of the "war" part. Great example of the trope, but not as pictured.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#10: Oct 24th 2011 at 4:43:39 PM

But not bad enough to pull.

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kroozer101 A stranger Since: Feb, 2011
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#11: Oct 24th 2011 at 5:06:51 PM

The Laconic is "Waging war for the dumbest reasons possible." This picture doesn't show war, or the waging thereof. It doesn't show the reason. In short, it does nothing to demonstrate the trope. I'm going to hazard a guess that it's from Babylon 5, but that still doesn't give me anything to work with. It's a bad pic, and, like all bad pics, it should be pulled.

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#12: Oct 24th 2011 at 5:22:55 PM

Yeah, this pic isn't very good.

Supporting pull. What are we up to, 3?

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kroozer101 A stranger Since: Feb, 2011
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#13: Oct 24th 2011 at 5:27:01 PM

[up] Five votes for, two against, counting you.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#14: Oct 24th 2011 at 6:27:22 PM

Support pull also.

I really think it qualifies as JAFAAC. There's two aliens standing there, and the caption basically saying "They hate each other because of the different colored ribbons". Without the caption, it's just as likely that they're the leaders of two alien boy scout troops standing next to each other at the intergalactic jamboree.

The hostility needs to be shown.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#15: Oct 24th 2011 at 7:17:22 PM

If they were yelling at each other, it would be much better. As it is, they just look like they're standing there greeting someone. Support pull.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#16: Oct 24th 2011 at 8:04:50 PM

@Raso: For the record, I'm also going to try and look for a better screencap from the episode, but I'm not certain there's one that will both show the Drazi fighting and establish that the reason they're fighting because of what color ribbon they're wearing.

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#17: Oct 25th 2011 at 1:38:14 AM

Support pull.

To identify what the image has to do with the trope, you need to first read the caption, then consider what page it's on and draw your own conclusion.

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#18: Oct 25th 2011 at 1:40:54 AM

[up][up] I think you can with subtitles... my screens of my DVD wont show the subtitles for some annoying reason.

Its Season 2 Episode 3.

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Catalogue A pocketful of saudade. from where the good times are Since: Sep, 2009
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#19: Oct 25th 2011 at 4:00:12 AM

Against pulling until we can find something better. It's not going to mislead anyone.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#20: Oct 25th 2011 at 11:09:27 AM

Actually, on second thought I think we can get a better screencap from the episode itself.

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#21: Oct 25th 2011 at 6:04:09 PM

+1 to pull; there's just not enough context there to get the trope across.

Tally for pull vote as of right now: 8 for, 3 against.

edited 25th Oct '11 6:05:27 PM by Willbyr

INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#22: Oct 25th 2011 at 6:26:08 PM

^^^Sure, it's not going to mislead anyone. The same could be said of having a 1x1 white pixel as the image. That doesn't mean it has any place being on the page.

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#23: Oct 25th 2011 at 6:29:37 PM

[up][up]So should it be pulled now? surprised

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plenum Videoludus ergo sum from Italy Since: Jan, 2010
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#24: Oct 25th 2011 at 6:46:03 PM

[up][up]That's a pretty meaningless statement. A white pixel would be misleading, because the trope is not about "nothing". Two aliens with a silly argument is something, it shows at least a good chunk of the trope, and it therefore is a better option to "nothing" as the page image.

If a better picture can be found, that would be for the best, but if we were unable to do so, this picture would be better than nothing. Wiewers can put 2 and 2 togheter.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#25: Oct 25th 2011 at 6:47:30 PM

Again, though, you need the caption to tell that there's even an argument in the first place. Otherwise it's just a couple of aliens showing off their differing tastes in clothing.


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