Being a Black Lesbian Poor Woman in Africa... SUCKS

By ontrast with being white, it does. You are at a disadvantage.

White residents of Africa are not King Leopold. Especially not in Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe aside, whites aren't more oppressed than anyone else, but point is, nobody will single out a black person for being black. Black is kind of the default.

In related news, economy still down.

Not everywhere, not for everyone.

^^^ But blacks are more oppressed than whites, especially where the internalized racism has persisted accompanied by an economic disparity.

I don't know much about Africa myself, but what I do know is that much of Africa was and in some places still is controlled by whites. Dutch in South Africa, English and French other places, and that has left a permanent scar on the societies there, even in societies that have since been liberated.

Doma Doma, do you not know these things about Africa?

^^

Not in most African Countries, which are by the vast majority black.

^ But, in many cases, with a fairly recent history of white rule.

^^ Feel free to name one Sub-Saharan country in which blacks are, on average, wealthier than the white population.

^ I was under the impression that it sucked to be white in Zimbabwe, although I don't know much about the specifics. (Then again, it sucks to be in Zimbabwe.)

I was under the impression that no matter who you were, being in most places in Africa meant having a rough time of it. Most of what I've heard about Africa are the countries where things are tough, though.

edited 25th Oct '11 9:35:39 PM by MarkVonLewis

Not really, I know quite a few people who've gone to work in Africa, and they just love it. You know, having a life full of strife and obstacles doesn't mean having a repulsive life. Notice how the suicide rates there are extremely low.

Though it might well be because people there have no standards whatsoever in "what kind of life is worth living". A Japanese guy will kill himself because he can't stand the shame and embarassment and ridicule society puts him through. An african guy will just say: "F**ck that shit, at least I'm alive!". But I digress, and baselessly speculate.

Looked up the quality-of-life index for Africa. It's the continent with the most countries that aren't on the index, and it also has the lowest-ranking country on the index (Zimbabwe.) On the other hand, South Africa is ranked higher than Russia is, and Morocco is actually up to east European standards.

Edit: To clarify, that was 2005 data off Wikipedia. Here's a more recent map. (Not sure of the credentials of the people doing this, but they explain their methodology, at least.)

edited 26th Oct '11 2:00:53 AM by feotakahari

I've been to Morocco. Let's just say there's a stark contrast betwee the cities and the places near the highways, which the Palace controls tightly... and the villages that are inaccessible by actual road: those are stuck a century ago...

I'm speaking comparatively. For example, Don't Let's Go to the Dogs Tonight is about a struggling(ish) white family, but they have it markedly better than the blacks.

And struggling, in this case, doesn't mean that they don't have luxuries such as servants.

edited 26th Oct '11 3:09:42 AM by kashchei

When you have servants but no competent oncologists in 2000 miles around, and the internet works at 250Kbps, you know you life in a fucked up place.

Eh, it really depends on your disposition. I'm a whiny bitchy when it comes to a lack of amenities (we're talking about not being able to flush half the time), but other than that, I don't think living a life that's basically stuck in the nineties technology-wise is such a horrible thing.

Oooh... yeaaah... the toilets.... Gah, once I travelled directly from Tchad to Germany. In one place you have no toilet paper and must use water instead... from a bucket... into toilets where you have to do it standing up... and in the other you barely touch anything: the tap, the soap, the towel-thing, everything is automatic. Even the door, you open it with a footle instead of a handle! Total hygiene!

Gah.

But yeah, nineties technology wasn't so bad.

Don't speak to me about Germany. Having your toilet and your bathtub in separate rooms is the most retarded thing ever.

Huh? Wasn't like that where I lived. Then again, Berlin is special.

"Having your toilet and your bathtub in separate rooms is the most retarded thing ever."

In Blighty, it's just another home. Besides who wants to be intruded on whilst showering/shitting?

Someone who doesn't lock their door?

OPTIMIZED SHARING: ONE WANTS TO SHOWER, NO NEED TO WAIT FOR THE ONE WHO SHITS

The european bathrooms i understand really. You get Clean in the shower/tub, you shit i the toliet. Shit is practially the epitimy of filth, why have it where you get clean?

Space wise though, I like the american system. Probablly because im used to it.

The American system? No, as far as I know, a good number of European countries don't separate their shitter from the bathroom either.