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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#76: Oct 20th 2011 at 7:49:36 PM

I guess if they want to pay the doctor to truck out to the person's home. Then again, the Netherlands is a fairly tiny place compared to the US.

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GreatLich Since: Jun, 2009
#77: Oct 20th 2011 at 7:57:10 PM

I believe it was initially conceived as a sort of MacGuffin, to get people to discuss the Right to Die.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#78: Oct 20th 2011 at 7:58:21 PM

Oh, I see what you mean by "supervised."

You don't insist that people are prohibited from owning Rat Poison in their homes, now are you? There's plenty of ways of poisoning yourself PAINFULLY. So why not a way of poisoning one's self reliably and relatively painlessly?

USAF721 F-22 1986 Concept from the United States Since: Oct, 2011
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#79: Oct 20th 2011 at 8:01:43 PM

I prefer that it's done in a hospital, so as to minimize the "fuck up" probability.

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#80: Oct 20th 2011 at 8:06:21 PM

Seems like needless bureaucracy to me!

USAF721 F-22 1986 Concept from the United States Since: Oct, 2011
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#81: Oct 20th 2011 at 8:09:12 PM

Well, there's all kinds of risks with letting them do it at home, from botching it to having someone else accidentally ingest it, such as a child or pet.

I'd rather have a doctor present for it.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#83: Oct 20th 2011 at 8:20:11 PM

I can't see a pharmacy stocking suicide pills, there's no opportunity for repeat purchases.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#84: Oct 20th 2011 at 8:31:40 PM

Besides, there's the cleaning products isle.

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GreatLich Since: Jun, 2009
#85: Oct 20th 2011 at 8:33:25 PM

Big Pharma! \*shakesfist\*

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#86: Oct 21st 2011 at 2:47:15 PM

You know I keep reading this a psychic assisted suicide.

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#87: Oct 22nd 2011 at 5:57:53 PM

In my town, there are laws against owning Rat Poison.

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#88: Oct 22nd 2011 at 6:24:13 PM

Then how do you kill rats?

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#89: Oct 22nd 2011 at 6:26:38 PM

Exterminators, who likely got said law put in place in conjunction, I imagine, with some case of somebody killing somebody else by rat poison.

~shrug~

I wouldn't want to commit suicide with poison anyhow. Painful and inefficient.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#90: Oct 22nd 2011 at 6:53:38 PM

Well, not that kind of poison anyway <shudders>

DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#91: Oct 22nd 2011 at 7:22:00 PM

There's a story behind that, but that would derail the thread. Suffice to say that you're expected to hire someone to put out poison containers that are designed to not be accessible by anyone but the exterminator.

Lawyerdude Citizen from my secret moon base Since: Jan, 2001
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#92: Oct 24th 2011 at 9:52:34 AM

On the question of physicians putting pressure on people to kill themselves, I don't think that would be as much a problem as some suspect. Doctors don't really pressure people today anyway. They present the facts of your condition, give their recommendation, and tell you the likely result of treatment vs. no treatment.

Of course, there are exceptions, and doctors can try to dissuade you against a course of action they know or believe to be too risky. They do that in part because doctors need to be sure that the patient has been fully informed of the risks and is making their decision based on full understanding of the facts. Doctors also can and do refuse to give treatment that they believe is not appropriate.

So, with PAS, the patient could ask for suicide. The doctor could simply say, "No, I do not agree that you are a viable candidate and will not assist you." I highly doubt that a doctor would visit a patient every day and say, "Are you sure you want to go on living? After all, the Brewers didn't make it to the World Series. What more do you have to live for? I have the shot right here."

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#93: Oct 24th 2011 at 11:28:48 AM

You're more likely to see medical staff "miss" a Living Will or a DNR than have them try and convince you to self-destruct.

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