JAFAAC?: Death By Newbery Medal

All it shows is the cover of a book that uses this trope. It does not show this trope being used.

At least the cover to◊ something like All Dogs Go To Heaven would somewhat indicate it; question is, is that the kind of image we should be going for? If not, should we be going for something of a major character from a popular work dying? (If it is well-known enough not to be considered a spoiler, that is?)

edited 19th Oct '11 10:17:09 AM by HiddenFacedMatt

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Link fixed. I agree the current picture has zero content as far as the trope goes. Wining an award doesn't tell us what happens in the story. Not convinced about the replacement though.

1. The trope is a young character faces the death of a close companion at the end of the book and experiences suffering and growth as a result. This plot is associated with winning awards. The proposed image doesn't show loss or suffering.
2. Is it an example? The example text for ADGTH on Death by Newbery Medal is poor quality; the needed details are missing. It's not even listed as an example on All Dogs Go To Heaven. What we can tell is that the companion dies at the start, not the end. There's no word on whether they die again for reals at the end.

edited 18th Oct '11 10:44:49 PM by Camacan

Matt: see this image:

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It's right above your entry, left of the "see the stale discussion report" and "oldstyle discussion" buttons.

That's the "edit linked page" button.

edited 18th Oct '11 10:48:50 PM by Deboss

Fight smart, not fair.

We need to pull it because I'm pretty sure it's kind of a spoiler.

Rhymes with "Protracted."

Hmmmm, would this type of trope always have a spoiler? I'd rather pull and wait for someone to come up with a good parody example.

Fight smart, not fair.

If it were a spoiler for a fifteen-page picture book (for example), I don't think we'd care.

Rhymes with "Protracted."

The Little Engine could in the end?! Thanks for spoiling it for me.

edited 19th Oct '11 12:18:34 AM by Camacan

I don't know... This seem a rare case in which being JAFAAC actually improves the image. You have no idea what this books is or what it talks about, yet just by looking at the medal on the cover you know that it's gonna end badly for someone. But yeah, the spoiler nature of the current cover is a problem...

Maybe what we could do in this case is use a book cover as anonymous as possible, then shop the medal over it, and then reference in the caption that someone, at some point, is going to die...?

"We are not a stuffy encyclopedic wiki. We're a buttload more informal".

Is it just me or is the name "Newbery Medal" completely wrong here? It's about stories in which a childhood friend dies, with the tentative assumption that such stories might win a literary award more often.

So anyway. Yeah, it's JAFAAC, and I would prefer seeing it replaced by an image in which e.g. the dog dies.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!

Well, it looks like the trope's supposed to be "you just know they're going to do this because it won a Newbery Medal". Maybe we could use a supertrope for the plot itself?

Yeah, unwritten rule number one: follow all the unwritten procedures. - Camacan

The trope is "In a coming-of-age story, especially one aimed at the YA market, there will be a tearjerking loss of a friend or pet for the main character."

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Ah, thanks. Turns out someone else did so already, but at least now I know for future reference.

As for All Dogs Go To Heaven, that was just an example. My point is, even if we were to use a cover, it would be better to use a more indicative one. If not, we could use an image of a well-known character death from a well-known popular work. (Like Charlotte from Charlottes Web or Mufasa from The Lion King.)

Alternatively, we could do without a page image.

edited 19th Oct '11 10:20:01 AM by HiddenFacedMatt

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

This might require a webcomic where someone is lampshading the trope.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.

Penny Arcade did something like this for Team Ico's upcoming The Last Guardian. I'd have to find it.

EDIT: Found it, but it won't let me link it. Boo.

edited 19th Oct '11 12:31:27 PM by Gillespie

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