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Seemingly unhealthy; poor name?: And The Winner Is get usage counts

 1 sgrunt, Sat, 15th Oct '11 1:01:21 AM from the depths of your mind
If you guessed that this had something to do with the Stock Phrase, you're arguably correct. If you guessed that it has to do with the person using the Stock Phrase, nope! It's about a pre-emptive response by someone else to the person using the Stock Phrase.

Perhaps we could try something like Preemptive Winning Speech... only put a little more elegantly?
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Support a rename.

 4 Spark 9, Sat, 10th Dec '11 5:18:21 PM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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Me too.
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 5 Silent Reverence, Sun, 11th Dec '11 11:58:49 AM from 3 tiles right 1 tile up
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Agree on the need of a rename.
 6 Dragon Quest Z, Sun, 11th Dec '11 12:14:25 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
The fact that it was even on TRS clued me in that this wasn't what the name looked like. So I correctly guessed what it is, by something other than the trope name.

So support renaming.

edited 11th Dec '11 12:14:57 PM by DragonQuestZ

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 7 Louie W, Tue, 3rd Jan '12 10:19:49 PM from Babycowland
There is now a single proposition rename crowner for this trope here. Feel free to tell me if you think it is a bit premature.
And the Winner Is... found in: 38 articles, excluding discussions.

Since January 1, 2011 this article has brought 6 people to the wiki from non-search engine links.

"irhgT nm0w tehre might b ea lotof th1nmgs i dont udarstannd, ubt oim ujst goinjg to keepfollowing this pazth i belieove iN !!!!!1 d
Low usage, misleading title, I support the rename.
Bump. The crowner's been running for three, four days with zero opposition.
Yeah, unwritten rule number one: follow all the unwritten procedures. - Camacan
And the winner is the option in favour of renaming "And the Winner Is..." tongue

edited 7th Jan '12 9:02:09 PM by HiddenFacedMatt

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 11 Meta Four, Sat, 7th Jan '12 10:00:26 PM from riding the wave
 12 Louie W, Sun, 8th Jan '12 7:57:38 AM from Babycowland
Given the support for a rename, there is now an alternative titles crowner for this trope here. Feel free to add names you see fit.
"irhgT nm0w tehre might b ea lotof th1nmgs i dont udarstannd, ubt oim ujst goinjg to keepfollowing this pazth i belieove iN !!!!!1 d
 13 Bobby G, Sun, 8th Jan '12 8:11:09 AM from the Silvery Tay
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I can't think of a better name right now, but I don't like "preemptive winning speech." The person usually waits until the award is given, but they still go to the stage and accept it because they weren't listening. That isn't preemptive - that's post-emptive.

 15 Firebert, Mon, 9th Jan '12 8:31:42 PM from Somewhere in Illinois
That One Guy
What name do you suggest, then?
Actually, I just read the examples on the page and I'm completely wrong. Disregard me please.

 17 Louie W, Mon, 9th Jan '12 9:25:22 PM from Babycowland
I might be reading too much into this, but one potential problem I see with Preemptive Winning Speech is that the character in question does not actually have to start giving an acceptance speech to fit this trope. For example, there are a few examples of people starting to get up or looking smug before the actual name of the winner is announced.

We could always make this trope more narrow to just be about preemptive winning speeches, but I think if we did that it would be a good idea to rewrite the description a bit and take out the examples which are not about actually giving speeches.
"irhgT nm0w tehre might b ea lotof th1nmgs i dont udarstannd, ubt oim ujst goinjg to keepfollowing this pazth i belieove iN !!!!!1 d
[up]Good points. Still, I'd consider Preemptive Winning Speech to be second-best to Assumed Win. There's something about Taken For Granted Win that sounds "too clunky".
 19 blackcat, Wed, 22nd Feb '12 11:23:29 AM Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Calling the crowner Assumed Win. Locking the crowner.
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 20 Septimus Heap, Wed, 22nd Feb '12 1:06:13 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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I've moved And the Winner Is... and all its wicks to Assumed Win and updated Renamed Tropes and the FAQ thread.

Given that there is no discussion, this can be closed now.

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Alternative Titles: And The Winner Is
8th Jan '12 7:54:54 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the name will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of Crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative names.
At issue:
Previous crowner showed consensus support for a rename.
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