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A thread to discuss electric vehicles and hybrid technology. No politics, please.

Technology, commercial aspects and marketing are all on-topic.


  • Companies (e.g. Tesla Inc.) are only on-topic when discussing their electric vehicle products and research, not their wider activities. The exception is when those wider activities directly impact (or are impacted by) their other business areas - e.g. if electric vehicle development is cut back due to losses in another part of the business.

  • Technology that's not directly related to electric vehicles (e.g. general battery research) is off-topic unless you're discussing how it might be used for vehicles.

  • If we're talking about individuals here, that should only be because they've said or done something directly relevant to the topic. Specifically, posts about Tesla do not automatically need to mention Elon Musk. And Musk's views, politics and personal life are firmly off-topic unless you can somehow show that they're relevant to electric cars.

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I was surprised there wasn't one already, so here's the spot to disscuss electric cars, hybrids, ect. No politicsing this thread please.

Also, posting this late, so sorry for any misspellings I might have left in there.

(Mod edited to replace original post)

Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 29th 2024 at 4:14:39 PM

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#4701: May 12th 2024 at 2:09:55 AM

There was an arson attack previously and it looks like several police were injured this time as part of an attempt to force entry into the factor to carry out violence against the property.

We’ve seen similar terrorism in favour of climate change in the U.K., with the repeated attack on ULEZ cameras in London, which are there to enforce a law aimed at improving air quality.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#4702: May 12th 2024 at 2:12:36 AM

What violence was planned against the property? Because if we're considering any protest where police are injured to be a terrorist attack then we've basically made the term so vague as to rob it of all meaning.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#4703: May 12th 2024 at 2:14:33 AM

They were trying to force entry into the factory, considering that this is a group that previously committed arson against nearby power lines I think it’s reasonable to assume that they were planning to damage or destroy factory infrastructure.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#4704: May 12th 2024 at 2:37:34 AM

>this is a group that previously committed arson against nearby power lines

No. The arson attack on the power lines was carried out by a different far-left organisation calling itself the Volcano Group, not the Disrupt Tesla movement that carried out this protest.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#4705: May 12th 2024 at 2:43:14 AM

My bad, I assumed there was only one group doing direct action against the factory. Yeah that does make the use of the term terrorism for this even less appropriate.

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#4706: May 12th 2024 at 3:10:36 AM

So basically this wasn't really terrorism but just a protest that got a bit violent.

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#4707: May 12th 2024 at 3:45:27 AM

Looks like it. And a bit of hyperbolic language.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#4708: May 16th 2024 at 7:26:37 PM

Electrek, 05/13/2024: Tesla’s head of Cybertruck manufacturing is out

Renjie Zhu, director of manufacturing in charge of Cybertruck production recently left Tesla. It's not clear if he retired on his own or if he was one of those subjected to Tesla's recent round of layoffs.

The article notes he was also the guy in charge of Tesla’s highly Model 3 and Model Y production lines in Shanghai. So he was kind of a big deal.

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#4709: May 17th 2024 at 8:47:57 PM

Apparently the F-150 Lighting is pretty ahead on salves compared to the Rivian and the Cyberrust. With the F-150 outselling Tesla, Rivian and GM by a healthy margin.

It helps that the F-150 is the cheapest option of the bunch, compounded that the Cybertruck being a fairly polarizing design and the Rivian being one of the most expensive options even after slashing its initial price.

There is the mention of the Silverado and Hummer E Vs but they are really pricey and GM's woes with the Chevy Bolt EV having a fairly salty 150m lawsuit and battery fire woes may have soured the reception of GM's E Vs. GM is behind the EV SUV/Light Truck sales by a pretty wide margin.

Edited by AngelusNox on May 17th 2024 at 12:48:58 PM

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#4710: May 21st 2024 at 9:46:28 AM

So apparently there's a company called Bedrock Materials that thinks they are on track to make a 300 mile Sodium Ion EV battery

Looking at the company's webpage, they are honest about Sodium Ion batteries not being able to match Lithium's energy density, but they think they can get good enough energy density for mass market models where cost and safety are more important.

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