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Also, posting this late, so sorry for any misspellings I might have left in there.
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Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 29th 2024 at 4:14:39 PM
So it turns out two of Musk's big selling points of the Cybertruck were a lie.
First, the Cybertruck isn't bulletproof.
Honestly, nobody should be surprised since this has all the hallmarks of something Musk did because he thought it was cool, and everyone already pointed out the windows weren't bulletproof anyway, but someone went and tested a whole lot of guns on the things. And before anyone tries to argue "well Futurism is just biased against Musk" I've included a link to the actual video the article is reporting on below.
Second, the CT loses to the Diesel Chevy Silverado in a tug of war. Tesla had originally showed a video of the Cybertruck winning but a lot of people cried foul and cast doubt on the authenticity of the video (Ford would ultimately decline to put it to the test themselves). Now that people have Cybertrucks they've tried to replicate the results and the truck loses every time. For unknown reasons it cuts power during the contest instantly, and attempts to get around this limitation fail. The only time it worked was when the Chevy was in park with no one in it.
People are still trying to figure out why the CT cuts power and work around it so expect a round three video at some point.
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I'd wonder if it's restricted if the resistance is too high to not damage things. But that means... well, you've got something with a theoretically high amount of grunt that won't like being used to pull things free. Seems like an awkward design choice.
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Oh, bother.
So you've got a truck that turns itself off when it tries to pull something.
Geez.
Disgusted, but not surprised
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
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Sounds a lot like how all the self-driving cars automatically turn off self-driving mode a second before crash, just to have plausible deniability about being in self-driving mode.
Its also worth noting manual windows wouldn't have helped either, pressure compresses the door, which puts more force on the windows... preventing them from being rolled down, any one who has tried to roll down manual windows with even a little bit of frost on them would understand how tempremental they were about the tolerances.
The only real option you have is breaking them, and we don't have emergency "break my windows" buttons in cars yet, even though maybe them coming with a window breaker should be standard...
I hate going to bat for that thing, my personal opinion is its one of the worst vehicles made in the last decade... but uhhh... that title card is a .50 cal.... thats a wepon explicitly designed to kill tanks interwar tanks mind, but that is literally an anti-tank gun... and it was still capable of killing tanks in WWIInote it will easily go through one side of an engine block and out the other...
If that didn't go through the cybertruck I would be wondering what the fuck it was made of.
Edited by Imca on Mar 12th 2024 at 6:14:04 PM
Uh, bit of a delayed response there.
I just woke up, I cant watch TVT all day....
After collisions the majority of car deaths are heat related due to people (mostly children though sidenote animals as well) being trapped inside, so I'm not sure if making the window hard to break is that much of a safety feature...
Edited by Gaiazun on Mar 12th 2024 at 2:21:44 AM
Oh, bother.
You need to watch the whole vid. They didn't just use a .50 cal. That was just the largest caliber they tested.
Don't just make an assumption about the content from the thumbnail alone.
Edited by M84 on Mar 12th 2024 at 5:23:49 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised
The .50 call was just There's No Kill like Overkill
Oh, bother.
That and a clickbaity thumbnail too. A big-ass rifle is more eye-catching than the handgun they also tested.
Disgusted, but not surprised
The problem is I will just flat out admit, I don't feel like watching videos about a Truck displaced from a 90s video game that rusts if you take it to the beach, or drive on a recently salted road.... especially not if it doesn't contain more new information on the Truck (haven't we already established the bullet proof being a lie) There is only so many times videos on how bad a bad truck is can be entertaining.
So its more noting the ridiculousness of testing the claim with an anti-tank rifle....
Even if its the thumb nail its kind of a "Yea, no shit that's going to go through" moment.
Edit: ... I cant believe it actually stopped the 9mm flipping through the video....
Edited by Imca on Mar 12th 2024 at 7:00:18 PM
Honestly, I don't think anything will ever beat the moment they smashed one of its windows during a presentation. 
Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Mar 12th 2024 at 11:21:36 AM
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Oh, bother.
I'm more confused about the thing shutting down during the tug of war testing. That's just weird.
Disgusted, but not surprised
Yeah, it’s a weird thing and nobody seems to understand why.
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Like, will it shut down if you try to pull a tree or something?
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The shutting down thing is definitely weird. And yeah, no matter how hyperbolically we interpret the claim that Cybertruck is bulletproof, I don't think anyone would reasonably expect it to stop .50 caliber or high-powered rifle rounds.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
You should probably still avoid people with AR-15s as well, though.
Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Mar 12th 2024 at 4:40:53 PM
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.
Besides, the term bulletproof is meaningless without more information.
Lost in Space
In my daily life I make a habit of avoiding people with AR-15s, yes.
Figure of Hourai
The shutting down thing only gets more baffling as I can't think of any other situation where a car turning off without warning would be described as anything other than broken. Even if there might be a reason for it...???
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I just think it was weird that the original Tesla video for "bulletproof" used an century old Thompson to demonstrate it rather than something modern and representative.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
Assuming there's no actual malice there, they probably had those old gangster films in mind where they'd often light up a car with tommies. It's a cool picture to invoke. Not as overly aggressive as actually bringing an AR-15, but more playful.
Edited by Kayeka on Mar 12th 2024 at 5:55:55 PM
You just know that the first person to drown in one is going to be trying that out one way or another.
Yeah, but it does make for an interesting point that convenience and safety in all other things does increase the number of ways you can be stuck inside a vehicle (particularly if the locks get buggered somehow).
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