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Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
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#1: Oct 6th 2011 at 11:52:36 PM

... in the name of security, reports Thinkprogress.

Republicans on the House Natural Resources Committee passed a bill out of committee yesterday that would waive 36 environmental, health, and tribal laws within 100 miles of U.S. land borders. H.R. 1505, the National Security and Federal Lands Protection Act, would give Customs and Border Protection, an agency under the auspices of the Department of Homeland Security, complete authority to waive these 36 laws if the agency deemed it necessary for border control activities. These laws include the Safe Drinking Water Act, the Clean Air Act, the Superfund Law, and the Clean Water Act (see full list here). Rep. Rob Bishop (R-UT), who sponsored the bill, defended it by claiming that “apparently we cannot have security with the present environmental laws.”

This bill simply removes the impediments, the prohibitions, and the restrictions. If Homeland Security needed to waive 36 laws to build the fence, those same 36 laws need to be waived for the border so they can do their job, and I defy anybody to tell me which of those laws has a higher priority than border security. You can have a good environment with security but apparently we cannot have security with the present environmental laws and the cavalier attitude in which they are being administered. Watch it:

Democrats on the committee questioned why only environmental laws were included in the list, rather than bills regulating industrial development on public lands such as mining, energy development, and timber. They pointed out that if Rep. Bishop’s claim is true — that “unacceptable restrictions…prevent Border Security experts from doing their jobs” — then other laws dictating the use of federal lands should be included on the list. An amendment from Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ) added two statutes governing mineral development and oil and gas extraction to the bill, and yet even after the amendment process, the bill remained almost entirely focused on rolling back environmental and health laws.

H.R. 1505 would also give Customs and Border Protection decision-making authority over federal land management agencies to conduct activities that “assist in securing” the U.S. border. This means that any recreational or industrial use of federal lands, such as hunting, fishing, hiking, grazing, mining, and many others, could be ended at a moment’s notice if Customs and Border Patrol demanded access to and control of a specific area.

For example, a hunting trip in the Gila National Forest in New Mexico or a fishing trip in Voyageurs National Park in Minnesota could be suddenly interrupted by new roads and fences. All of this could occur without any public notice or comment, or even judicial review. As Think Progress reported this summer, these authorities are “czarlike powers” for a single agency and could compromise our country’s critical checks and balances system.

In April, a representative from Customs and Border Protection testified that his agency already has a strong working relationship with public lands agencies, saying, “We continue to work with our federal land management partners to ensure that we effectively comply with environmental laws while we carry out our responsibilities to protect the nation.”

Rep. Ed Markey (D-MA) said yesterday that this bill should be thought of as “undocumented legislation,” in that Republicans are attempting to “sneak it into law” by claiming that border security and environmental protections cannot go hand in hand.

Seriously? Protecting the environment compromises national security?! is anyone able to explain to me why this bill isn't a massive handout to various companies?

edited 6th Oct '11 11:52:48 PM by Enkufka

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#2: Oct 6th 2011 at 11:58:51 PM

The department itself to me wasn't such a good idea. I don't agree with the intrusion on what's currently active of an environmental protection policy we have.

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#3: Oct 7th 2011 at 5:57:17 AM

Stay Classy, republicans.

Karkadinn Karkadinn from New Orleans, Louisiana Since: Jul, 2009
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#4: Oct 7th 2011 at 7:58:02 AM

Democrats on the committee questioned why only environmental laws were included in the list, rather than bills regulating industrial development on public lands such as mining, energy development, and timber. They pointed out that if Rep. Bishop’s claim is true — that “unacceptable restrictions…prevent Border Security experts from doing their jobs” — then other laws dictating the use of federal lands should be included on the list. An amendment from Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ) added two statutes governing mineral development and oil and gas extraction to the bill, and yet even after the amendment process, the bill remained almost entirely focused on rolling back environmental and health laws.

More politics disguised as keeping the American people safe from those dirty Mexicans; as usual, they're not even consistent with their own theoretical justifications due to honing in on those darn lefty programs and ignoring all else. They won't be satisfied until we no longer have an environment that can be exploited for short term profit.

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
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#5: Oct 7th 2011 at 8:34:13 AM

[up] They won't be satisfied until we're all slaves to the rich/corporates they keep hiding behind, those scum...

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#6: Oct 7th 2011 at 10:35:04 AM

In all seriousness, I want to hear someone try to defend this bill as anything other than a back-door entrance to ignore these laws and not others.

Seriously, what the fucking fuck?

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#7: Oct 7th 2011 at 10:43:49 AM

Illegal immigrants are just a scapegoat. This is just another excuse to deregulate business. A very dangerous one, indeed.

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#8: Oct 7th 2011 at 10:55:33 AM

...which ironically brings the US a lot closer to China's state of existence than anything that the Democrats could ever accomplish.

And what pisses me off the most about it is that everyone's so worked up over the economy that trying ti defend issues that AREN'T directly related to it, like the environment, is just seen as non-feasible from the start, regardless of how far in attacks the GOP goes. You'd think they'd be spending this time to focus on meaningful job creation to really pull the rug out from under the left, but no, as usual, the only thing that can seem to think about is turning back the clock and devolving society to its lowest levels.

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
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#9: Oct 7th 2011 at 11:07:38 AM

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Somehow, I don't think any form of fortification designed for the purposes of border defenses would be well-built if they're willing to waive design and environmental standards to do it.

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#10: Oct 10th 2011 at 10:51:08 AM

Methinks it's less an act for national defense than an attempt to demonstrate their ability to undo laws that they don't like, and to assert that politics/economy will take precedence over environmental concerns.

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#11: Oct 10th 2011 at 11:50:18 AM

I really don'tlike these idiots sometimes.

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#12: Oct 10th 2011 at 11:53:16 AM

Okay, Democrats. Show us you have some damn balls and oppose this fucker.

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