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Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#151: Oct 31st 2011 at 4:00:31 PM

I was hanging out in Charlotte when I realized that that's where the stadium is located.

Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
Long Live the King
#152: Oct 31st 2011 at 6:00:56 PM

Most of all, they don't have an offensive plan that suits his style. Run a bootleg, do a shotgun screen, do something that's not a "drop back, sit in the pocket for way too long and get sacked" play.

I think this is the key with the Tebow bit...

If you have watched all his games in their entirety(and I have, I live in Colorado so CBS forces me to), when Tebow is in the shotgun-spread, he throws the ball well. He gets the ball out of his hands, and to receivers on time, and relatively accurately(~65% like the rest of the league in the Shotgun).

The fact that the Broncos started that game in the shotgun-spread, and Tebow drove the field(and got robbed out of a touchdown), shows he is capable of playing well in the NFL.*

The Broncos never went back into the shotgun-spread until 6 minutes left in the game, and there's a problem with that...

It seems clear to me that John Fox wants Tebow to fail, and is actively sabotaging the games. By forcing Tebow to throw out of the I-formation, after having run on first and second down for a gain of (maybe) 2 yards... Seems to me as though Fox cares less about winning games, at present, and more about showing people that Tebow "can't play."

I will admit, though, that Tebow is incapable of playing QB in the standard set-up... Just like Micheal Vick. The difference between the two players, at present, is that Vick is with a coach/team that plays to his strengths and isn't actively sabotaging him...

edited 31st Oct '11 6:01:47 PM by Swish

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#153: Oct 31st 2011 at 6:10:43 PM

GO CHIEFS GO

  • :D :D :D

edited 31st Oct '11 6:16:08 PM by Midgetsnowman

Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
Android_Chaos Since: Sep, 2009
#156: Oct 31st 2011 at 6:51:10 PM

[quote]It seems clear to me that John Fox wants Tebow to fail, and is actively sabotaging the games. By forcing Tebow to throw out of the I-formation, after having run on first and second down for a gain of (maybe) 2 yards... Seems to me as though Fox cares less about winning games, at present, and more about showing people that Tebow "can't play."[/quote]

This. So much this.

And even Elway's semi-doing it and he was the Broncos' quarterback in his heyday! That's the shit I mentioned off-hand that Tebow had to endure and he should be given a chance and be supported instead of being dicked around by a coach who should be reminded that he had very subpar years with Jake Delhomme as his QB and Elway who probably had his own growing pains in the NFL become becoming one of the greats. Otherwise, why did they draft him? And why the hell did they brought in Brady Quinn, another QB who's gonna be lounging on the bnech? It seems to me like they've becoming somewhat enamoured with Kyle Orton who won some games for Chicago but is otherwise a mediocre passer who can't finish games because of his and the team's deficiencies.

Some people can be such idiots.

edited 31st Oct '11 6:52:08 PM by Android_Chaos

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#157: Oct 31st 2011 at 7:18:44 PM

I admit it does kinda suck for the guy..I mean, if thats the case..then they pretty much left hime to the lions (in a pun style manner) expecting what happens to prey creatures to happen near an alpha predator. devouring.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#158: Oct 31st 2011 at 8:15:55 PM

HELL YEAH POSSIBLE RUSHING TD

Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#159: Oct 31st 2011 at 8:57:19 PM

For the first time in ages I'm excited while watching a football game. GO CHIEFS!! —- SON of a bitch interception.

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Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#160: Oct 31st 2011 at 8:59:44 PM

I'm kind of surprised there's actually enough interest here for a footballs thread.

[up]What's wrong with you people? The Cardinals win and everyone is happy?cool

Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#161: Oct 31st 2011 at 9:01:02 PM

Nah, I'm just happy my local team isn't being embarrassing anymore. Jeezus, did you see their first two games this year? It made our city collectively ashamed to exist. [lol]

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Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#162: Oct 31st 2011 at 9:02:21 PM

Hey it's not that bad, you could of been the Lions

Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#163: Oct 31st 2011 at 9:12:44 PM

We lost to the Lions. 48 to 3. We lost hard.

i. hear. a. sound.
Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#164: Oct 31st 2011 at 9:13:37 PM

My bad, I should of said 08 Lions.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#165: Oct 31st 2011 at 9:20:58 PM

and the chargers lose. Its completely THEIR fault for the loss.

The chargers lost. because they fucked up HARD

edited 31st Oct '11 9:21:43 PM by Midgetsnowman

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
I Am The Walrus
#166: Oct 31st 2011 at 9:21:19 PM

And the Chiefs win. They have now won four in a row since starting 0-3.

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Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
I Am The Walrus
#168: Oct 31st 2011 at 9:36:14 PM

They also have the AFC West tiebreaker at the moment (from splitting the season series with the Chargers and shutting out Oakland).

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#169: Oct 31st 2011 at 9:38:36 PM

Yep. And what makes it sting more for the chargers is that yes, The Chiefs defense played decently. But the Chargers fumbling at the last minute pretty much lost them the game and theres no excuse at all for it.

edited 31st Oct '11 9:46:15 PM by Midgetsnowman

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
I Am The Walrus
#170: Oct 31st 2011 at 9:48:03 PM

The Chiefs' next game is against the winless Dolphins. The Chargers' next game is against the undefeated Packers. Things can really change here.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#171: Oct 31st 2011 at 10:01:01 PM

yeah. if the chiefs can resolve some of their consistency issues their next two games should be easy wins.

Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#172: Oct 31st 2011 at 10:02:05 PM

That's a pretty big if.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#173: Oct 31st 2011 at 10:08:35 PM

Thats true. The dolphins do worry me because theyre a good team, just having some consistency issues as well. The broncos on the other hand..

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
I Am The Walrus
#174: Oct 31st 2011 at 11:05:39 PM

Do the Dolphins still use the Wildcat? Because the Wildcat has proved to be incredibly easy to read lately.

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EagleFan On The Wentz Wagon Since: Jan, 2013
On The Wentz Wagon
#175: Nov 4th 2011 at 7:50:12 AM

If they do, we're probably not seeing it. The two running backs that Miami employed to run the Wildcat, Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown, are no longer with the team. Williams is with the Ravens, and Brown with the Eagles, so I doubt that the Dolphins are consistently running the Wildcat at this point.

On an unrelated note: Which team is most likely going to win the "Suck for Luck" sweepstakes at this point? My money's on the Colts. As midgetsnowman said above, the Dolphins seem to be having consistency issues, and if the Dolphins could get a competent quarterback, they would probably be better than their current record (by how much, I don't know, but probably not 0-7). The Colts, so far, seem to be consistently awful, which is extremely surprising coming from a team that two years ago was playing in the Superbowl. Just goes to show, don't ever bet on the NFL, because things can pretty much change day to day.

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