Sent to cut list. Cut request denied. Why?: Headscratchers.Avatar The Last Airbender Shipping

Okay, for those of you who are curious, don't click the link. It's all a huge ship war. Here's a succinct summary of the entire contents of this page.

Yeah. Is there anything on that page worth salvaging? All sources point to "No." I sent it to cutlist and the request got denied.

edited 12th Sep '11 7:42:12 PM by SalFishFin

It seems that once more one of our offerings has been rejected by the all-knowing Cutmaster Gods, for reasons known only to their Olympian minds...

...I agree that this page is indefensible, and this represents one more reason why we badly need to enforce some kind of consistency on the Cut List. In the meantime, I suggest making a crowner - I doubt anyone will defend this page, and having a TRS thread to link to appears to make a cut request more likely to go through.

I don't care much for shipping, but the logic seems to be that having such pages help to keep it off the main page. Entries that are about actual complaining are typically deleted (which is the reason behind the name change from "Just Bugs Me" to "Headscratchers" to avoid the "I hate this, that's all" type entries)

The Shipping aspect of the Avatar fandom is immense and so it is putting that topic somewhere you ca read about it but doesn't overwhelm anything the average reader would come across purely by accident.

Plus, when cut listing a page unless it is blatant vandalism or the name is mispelled they should always require a trope repair thread so other people can weigh in on the validity of the page. Granted, that is what you are doing now but any cutmaster isn't going to delete a page like that unless there is some discussion about it.

But why does it belong on TV Tropes and not on some fan page somewhere else?

Since that's all Just Bugs Me and not at all Headscratchers, you could perfectly justifiably delete it all yourself. Then cut list it with the note "all content removed."

edited 13th Sep '11 12:04:09 AM by Routerie

That'd probably be better anyway as it'd prevent artifact wicks.

^^^ We can say the same thing about all of the fan-based tabs (Awesome, Heartwarming, Funny, Terjerker) we put at the top of media pages. In the end TV Tropes has become a fansite with it's own fan community, and so it has made efforts to direct various fan content to the proper location.

But I was talking in pretty broad terms, mostly in response to the criticism of the cut masters in the first two posts. As for the page itself there does seem to be a degree of ranting and interpersonal arguing, which is a far better reason for cutting than any degree of "I find the content worthless."

Except the ranting and such is the worthless content to which I refer.

Anyway, The cut request got denied again. That makes at least three times. I sent it to Fast Eddie to Handle.

There are legit questions being asked as far as I can tell. (And some of the answers are snarky but more or less correct.) I really don't see what's worthless about asking someone to explain their characterization choices.

The only Headscratcher of the list that sounds a legitimate headscratcher is 3. And, if legitimate, it belongs to the "other characters" page, not the shipping page. 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 are non- subtle complaining.

edited 15th Sep '11 9:53:27 AM by MagBas

I don't see how "What happened to this character who had under 10 minutes of screentime?" is a legitimate question.

I think someone Disagrees with those ships.

I don't disagree with the ships and I'm will Sal that the page should be cut. The page is nothing but complaining about pairings you don't like. That's not what Headscratchers is for.

Cut it already. I agree.

I don't disagree with ships. I disagree with people who think they know fictional characters better then the people who created said characters.

I just looked at the page, and it no longer appears to exist. Problem solved?

I no longer see it on my watchlist, so I can only assume it's been cut for real. I wouldn't mind if a Mod would confirm it before locking the thread.

It doesn't take a mod to go look at the list of recently cut pages. It's prominently linked from the cut list. And yes, this was cut. Discussion should be locked.